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But the unveiling will not necessarily be the final configuration - just rev 1. All things (design solutions) should improve over time.

I also wish they would only compare FSD usage or Autopilot usage with miles driven on the same road (or same difficulty level). The bias we worry about is that FSD or Autopilot is only enabled on the easy roads, while when it is off, the easy roads plus the hard roads are included. I'd like to...

Or perhaps an ex-employee by now.

You could just buy one of those devices they use to pump you full of air. That can take a day to get rid of all of that air. I've got to do a virtual one because the doc had trouble making the last turn with the camera. This time I'll be awake and see what I've been missing.

What is your definition of a normal person? I think I know a lot of people who would use it that way. Then again, most people I know are not normal.

Extremely broken? What term would you use if it just stopped and didn't proceed or if it crossed and made other cars brake or swerve? I would call that a successful LHT, but one that could use refinement. Broken? No. Could be better? Yes.

12.3.9? Ah ha! I knew there were some time-travelers in this group.

Almost 250 pages of discussion here between 12.3.3 and 12.4 beginning to rollout to employees. Let's see if 12.4 will be the savior to save our souls.

Looks like this location is going to be open to all EVs. zoom into the last pic to see the device near the handle.

I'll ask the obvious question - how did FSD figure out that there was enough room in the island to hang out and wait for the RHS to clear? Can it figure out if there is just a narrow break in the median? What if there is a left turn left added for the drivers coming from the right when they wish...

In Germany, you can get a ticket for passing on the right. So on the autobahn, flashing your lights, tailing 5 ft behind, honking your horn, etc. is all acceptable behavior when you are in the left lane going faster than the one ahead of you blocking it. And the Green party often blocks the...

No. When I talked to the guy working there and suggested 4 more weeks, he said, "Oh no, two more weeks." Now my 4 weeks appears to have been optimistic. Then again, we were not clear as to what we were talking about as being finished. Maybe his work was 2 more weeks, but certainly not the reopening.

12.3.6 is yesterday's news. It's like a troubled teen who has been sent to correction school. Tell me how they behave when they graduate to 12.4.

OK - it is good to learn something new everyday. @APotatoGod - intentional or accidental?

I think you meant " their effect affect"

And while we are at it They're, Their, There. effect, affect then, than ...

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I hope all these permitted sites in East Valley get built. As far as Globe is concerned (and Kayenta), the wait continues.

Did Musk reply only because he follows Dirty Tesla and no longer follows Omar? Or did he really relent on dropping Omar? Until 12.4.x comes out, these are the only types of things of interest.

On a similar note, my son-in-law who hates driving - makes him too nervous, said he'd be willing to pay for a monthly subscription just for the parking ability.

Yes, 12.4.x will be the acid test.

Has any aspect improved from 12.3.3 to 12.3.6, other than adding parking? Not good statistical sampling on my part, but I've heard more negatives than positives, but now I can't recall aspects that got reliably better, which makes me ask if there was some aspect that got reliably better.

Old count was 12. I count 12 pipes. I don't see any increase in stall count.

Adding some pics to @tynamic

My salesperson told me that Elon was going to demonstrate a NY to LA driverless trip soon. That was in early 2015 when I bought my model S. No label was given to this feat, but neverthesless, that is what the sales person told me.

I'll gauge FSD improvement trajectory on the improvements 12.4 brings. 12.3.4 seems to have broken some things. I had a zero intervention drive home from a restaurant last night, although it was only a 3 mile drive, it got everything right. When I drive with my wife (not using FSD, me driving)...

I pull forward without fsd until I can see oncoming traffic when I'm first in line. Sometimes that means going into the crosswalk when there are no walkers. 2nd or 3rd in line is different. Not sure what I do, other than try to get a view as I enter.

Wake me up when V12.4.x drops.

I'm 99% sure that's what it did to me on roads like Tx Hwy 287.

On my 2400 round trip to east texas to view the eclipse (luckily successful), the highway stack did beautifully on interstate highways. No pingpong, passed slower cars automatically, got out of the left lane if a faster car was approaching from behind. While on regular highways, it was like a...

Today's update: the man said 2 more weeks after I suggested 4 more weeks.

That's what I was thinking but to stopped doing all of the things it did well on the interstate like automatically pass someone going slower than you, or moving to the right lane to let someone pass who was going faster than you in the left lane. Also, it no longer biased its lane position to...

So V12.3.3 didn't fare very well in Texas for us, esp off interstates and tollroads. Many roads were being worked on where the lane lines were not well defined or were not there as they hadn't been repainted yet. That and unrestricted access to 75 mph highways was quite troublesome. The NN is...

It always amazes me how much dirt they excavate!

Wednesday noon. 5 or 6 cars charging. All looks in order. Yay!

We stayed at the Hampton only because we couldn't get two rooms at El capitan. Many restaurants were closed on Tuesday. Cattleman's had a 90 minute wait, but we wanted to give el capitan a try. Went there and were delighted. Food was great and they did a great job handling the crowd. They were...

Yes, it wasn't slowing down fast enough either and the police are patrolling heavily, which I think is a good thing. And these roads are not limited access either. People are doing quick motions too close to the freeway that freaks out FSD (and me sometimes too). So FSD was a nervous wreck, so...

On roads like hwy Tx 69 in east texas near tyler, it'll adjust for speed limit signs up to 60 mph, but when it goes to 70 mph, it ignores it. Guess it says, no way am I doing 70 mph on this road, which is very sensible, but other drivers would be unhappy if I kept my speed to 60 or 65 mph. I...

It's in-between a multiaccess highway and a limited access interstate freeway. Which part of the code covers it? It didn't move to the left of the lane when passing semi s, it hates the right lane and will try to move out of it. Doesn't pass a slower moving car and doesn't get out of the left...

Traveling SE on Texas 287 between Amarillo and Childress, the car doesn't read most speed limit signs (or they aren't programmed in), but the speed limit is 75 most of the time. The car behaves differently than when it was on I 40. I'm guessing it is treating TX 287 as not a highway. Many...

I think they've been iffy for several months

It will play a video for you to keep you entertained until the rain lets up?

In Arizona, some school zones have a 15 mph limit approaching a crosswalk, but as you pass the crosswalk, there is no sign telling you that you may speed up again. People just take notice of the presence of the sign in the opposite direction and assume that the zone is lifted. FSD 12.3.3 did not...

Will you even be able to sleep knowing the update is there waiting for you to take it for a ride? Pleasant dreams.

Or optionally, also set a recurrent hourly alarm after you go to bed (-; But holy cow!!! I didn't know about the "check" until 15 mins ago, so I tried it, and now it is saying it is downloading 2024.3.10! WooHoo!!!

Well, Chuck just got 12.3.3. I'm hoping that the trial period people will get an upgrade before the trial period is over.

1st drive of about 14 miles mixed between highway and surface streets. The only intervention was early on, while driving on the freeway, where the truck next to us began to swerve into our lane. My wife was driving and just did a reflex jerk of the wheel to move over. Not sure if it was...

So last night, version 2024.3.6 was installed on our model Y (2023) and we are not in the beta program. This must be the "every FSD capable car will get a month of FSD for free" program. We will try it out certainly. This morning an email arrived saying our free trial will end on April 30th. WooHoo!

How is this different from (many) humans? LOL.

To add a prequel to this, when I took delivery of my S85D in June 2015 Elon was talking about how an autonomous NY to LA drive was in the works. No talk about future hardware or special software, because why would anything better be needed? The car is starting to feel antiquated compared to our...