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I’ve noticed that a lot of very smart people do high impact dumb stuff. It works out if they have a feedback mechanism and not a feedback loop. The alien dreadnaut disaster was resolved because Elon had a team to bail him out and who anticipated he was wrong. That feedback process seems gone for...

I wonder if TSLA short sellers are forced out of positions to cover GME losses. Why the forces that be continue to allow more than 100% shorting of a stock is beyond reason. Very inefficient use of resources.

I'll roll them down as the week progresses, assuming we don't run into the 180's and try to roll in some July 220 calls.

Annoyed at myself. I sold 20 187.5 calls too soon this morning. Busy and didn't wait for a top. Closed 165 puts as we hit 175 and will be glad not to sweat them this week. Would still like to see green on the Model Y too.

The color issue is especially true in the USA where you have two plants. Why not make different colors in the two plants.

I hate selling puts. I just rolled P170 to next week. I could have bought it back this morning, but figured it was safe. I have a harder time staying rational and rolled when we with 168, but should have waited until after 2 and all extrensic value is gone and we likely circle back and close...

You are relentless! I've been sweating (not much) 5 170p and was sweating 5 185CC. I appreciate your insight into getting out of trades that don't go your way. I bought 140 calls to 2x 160 calls to get them closer to strike. I can roll them out to next week for a small credit and wait for a...

"220, 221 whatever it takes"

Anyhow...we're crossing into the other thread, myself included. I sold 205 CC's this morning before MMD and sold some 170 puts on the MMD. Will be interesting if the additional cuts push the stock up or down, or continue sideways. Either way, I'm trying to not get too close to the money. I do...

I think if you were on the board and Elon didn't fire you, or you didn't change his mind, you were not doing your job.

The margin compression is due to delays for new products. Delayed semi, delayed batteries, delayed Model 2, delayed Y refresh. Tesla got a boost managing though covid, but gave up the edge in not maintaining the pace of innovation. That is due, at least in part, on Elon being the Twitter sitter...

Consumer goods should decline relative to the market. High growth stocks are more subject to lower rates, which increase the discounted value of future cash flow.

Apple reinvented itself into a mobile communication platform. Maybe Tesla becoming a mobility platform will be the Apple story of the next 15 years. I sure would like an excuse for another stock split.

I sold 200 shares of Apple and bought Dell in 1998. There was no way for Apple to scale up. You had to make me look that up! I'm glad I don't own 22,000 shares of Apple. I'd be lazy and sitting on a beach instead of figuring out how to make up for not selling any Tesla at 400 when my wife told...

After rolling my 185 CC's out to July, I started shortening them up today. A little too late to get much done. I opened 2 190 May 3 call for each July 19th 190 calls. I added some 195 calls as well. Looks like MM have taken control back will keep the stock in a channel, until Elon drops another...

I thought the battle for 172.5 was interesting last week. I now have 185 CC's for this week and will perhaps sell more 200CC's for Friday. Will this mornings rally create a FOMO event, or bring in bears to profit off of a short term jump? Does Elon \ Tesla have a line up of opportunities now...

Rather exciting race between the market and theta for my 172 CC's today. We seem to be in a battle for 170 or 172.5.

I'm travelling and don't want to be watching all week. I'll feel better about not selling with the puts and ok if we rocket up.. Most likely scenario is we go down to the 130's and the puts expire worthless. Still hoping the fabled 144 gap is our bottom and we're able to move up and onward. I...

I was going to stay out for next week, but I'm a little nervous about the earnings call. I sold 10 July 205 calls and bought 20 April 26 130 puts in case of a total *sugar* show. I'd be ok selling shares at 205 at this point and happy to have some insurance. Hopefully it is a great call and we...

I probably won't do it, or on a small scale, but wondering if next week is ripe for an iron condor, which is a strangle and a straddle at the same time. With wild card Elon in play, next week could swing more than an average earnings. You could sell tight calls and puts and buy puts and calls...

Legal eagles make you hold the steering wheel. Annoying, if they can just have the camera make sure you are watching. Prior to 12.3, I would hold on anyhow, since it would make some erratic moves without warning. FSD 11.x was suicidal.

Wow, I've cleared out all my 4/19 CC's. Took the bird in the hand approach to 150, 155, 157, 160 and 162 and 165 calls that I had sold since Monday (when I woke up thinking Tesla was going to crash this week). I've rolled most of my 30+ 2025 CC's down and out, except 6 300 calls in Dec 2025. A...

Be careful, when all hope is lost, its not hard to have a short covering run up. We could bounce at 144, or crater. I bet that we'd drop this week, but I am taking money off the table and will listen to the earnings call with hope that there is a reasonable plan beyond balls to the walls.

I've been clearing out my long dated calls and down to 16 2025 CC's. Those were rolled out when we bounced from 100 and I was too close. For 4/19 I have 150, 155, 157, 160 and 162 CC's. I expect we'll test the 144 gap and hopefully bounce next week. If Elon gets his package, he's going to want...

It may come back to haunt me, but I'm selling very aggressive CC's. I sold 165 yesterday at the open and then more 167. I've now rolled 175 and 170 CC's for this week to 155 and 150 and rolled July 225 calls to Friday 160 calls. I believe certainty is the enemy of wisdom and sadly, I think Elon...

I sold 165 and 167.5 for this week. I had some July calls I moved up to 167.5. I’m sitting on 170, 175, 180 calls for this week and 200 calls for May 3rd. That was me following dl003 last week or two weeks ago. I’ve cleared out about 25 long dated calls from this week, out to July. I have 16...

I'm with Mr Plaid on this take. I sold 165 calls for this week at 5.70 this morning. I was thinking of buying July 140 puts, but at 5.75, it seems a bit rich, I'm better off selling more aggressive calls, for my risk preferences anyhow. The layoff thing would be definitely a bad sign. When...

I see these charts and I almost think I should have sold TSLA at 400 and bought Nvidia.

I guess my 170 calls are safe. Who knew the next catalyst would be sending us to 144 sooner than expected. Locally, my Tesla lot is packed as never before. In the past there was usually a lot of cars backed into the spots facing the street. These would have temp plates and were ready to be...

Likely false, if so, good chance to sell puts. If true, who knows. It's been Elon's white whale for 8 years. A robotaxi just seems legally and logistically some time out there. Door handles that anyone can use? Is it legal everywhere? Do they have the web applications and infrastructure to make...

My 170's for next week was me rolling July 19 230 calls down to April 12 170. I've had long dated calls forever and trying to clear these out, during what I expect to be bearish span of time. I hope the 144 gap is our bear case, but if we break that, there is probably nothing between us an 100...

I sold 180 calls near the high and bought them back near the close. Small trade, but aside from licensing FSD to F or GM, I don't see any short term catalyst to bump us up before Q2 P&D. Wish I sold 4/12 CC's yesterday, too easy to think these little pushes are the start of a rally, but I would...

Always interesting to read everyone's style on the thread, so many approaches. Surprising strong up most of the day and then revert at the end. I don't think the time traveller called the regression back to 171. I sold some 4/5 180 CC's for .61, got a little nervous but held out to buy back...

I'm disappointed my 155CC didn't role on Friday. I caught it yesterday and didn't resell it, figuring perhaps the bad numbers were baked in. I hate selling a lot of CC's while we are falling, after getting burned when we closed in on 100 and had to roll calls out two years. I hope 144 is as bad...

There are probably a 100 of them at my local sales lot. When the lot us full and cars are ready for sales, the backend faces the street with temp plates ready to go. Lately, it is mostly the front end I'm seeing.

Nice, I closed 200 CC's for Friday. I'm sure they are safe, but I'm getting out of the way. I still expect a drop and this may be the path to 144 this week, before rebounding on FSD news, Cyber ramping and earnings results that might beat with some help from Tesla Energy storage. I still have...

I solidly prefer the less risk and occasional small gamble. I got too confident before the Twitter debacle and lost on puts and calls on the run up and the crash down.

Maybe you should change your handle to BorntoFlyCloseto the Sun. I just rolled 185cc to 190 for next week. I think P&D will send us back down for another beating. Who knows, could be priced in already.

I dream about going to the stockholders call and asking Elon how he gets feedback in the company. I feel that anyone with enough gravitas to call him out on bullshit is gone and the people close to him are toadys and leaches. On the bright side, FSD may really be a year away, battery storage...

How does AMD measure vs NVDA and SMCI and now MSTR? I own a few shares and sold CC against when it hit 200. I'd be ok selling here, but the calls now are against a huge run up and profit now, before the AI stocks return to something closer to their mean.

I have some 2025 CC's and I've been moving them up to 2024 at a lower strike. If we bounce, I'm ok selling at 225 in April and 250 in July. I appreciated the big price for CC's from 300 to 400, but I don't see much risk in bringing them forward at a lower strike and being able to get out and...

Off track, but energy storage may get added to valuations after this quarter. It's been too small, but revenues should be there to be accounted for and factored into net present value. If Elon would run the earnings call like an earnings call, instead of a bitch session, maybe that would have...

There are many risks here. One big risk is you take the loss and the stock goes back down to 500. Now you owe stock on gains you've already lost. You can probably roll the calls out and up some to 2026 and get some of the gains back, without risking paying taxes. The downside is it goes to 2000...

Maxplaid is usually the guy managing these big risky bets. I'm not sure if you can roll a week out, but I'd be worried about being assigned. With NVDA volatility this could well be green on Monday, if you can extend it a week, but it won't be free.

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I lost bigly when TSLA ran up after the Hertz thing and the bottom dropped out when Elon decided wokeness was the great boogeyman and needed to buy twitter. I had two black swans in a row that wiped out spreads 100%. It was a big loss for me, it is a hot surface I will not touch again.

Was that a Gary Black catalyst?

I hope it gets back to 900, but I hope you avoid that big a risk in the future. That is crazy risky without a lot of upside. I'm putting in an order for a share. now.

and that's ok. be the house.

In my IRA I have been selling more in waves, I have 2 weeks out, where I think we're safe, a month out, where I can roll and 2 and 3 months out where I'm ok being assigned. I'm listening here on ranges for the next few weeks and at this level, I'll be backing off on short term CC's. Very little...