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I’ll let you know how it drives next week - car in Paramus (again) with ETA pickup 22nd. Hopefully they would have resolved the leaky half shaft and can now test with the newly balanced tires. The stock tires with a properly aligned and road force balanced car should not fare any worse or better...

Ah and let’s not forget the half shafts. The tire shop also noticed my right half shaft was leaking grease and had a torn boot. Only 3.15k miles. Being examined now at the SC among a few other things.

My MXP has very obvious vibration in the passenger seat that I can feel by placing my palm just behind the headrest. I have changed the stock continentals almost right after delivery so this is with the pirelli weatheractive non stock tires. There are two reasons behind this. One is the seat...

I have not been able to discern LR vs Plaid in smoothness. Test drove LR 3 times before I both the MXP and they feel very similar.

Apparently Musk wants to convince you of the same judging by his Twitter/X rants - one wonders why doesn’t he simply refute it instead of getting involved in childish attacks on the source. Maybe discrediting a source is one way to deal with inconvenient revelations?

That’s a pretty obtuse comment and I usually don’t get involved in forum squabbles or labeling, but can’t pass on that one. Needing the $ is to be interpreted as “need to have a paycheck right away, severance is inadequate, I’m afraid I can’t land a new job soon enough” and not needing $ in...

Is this why Musk has been going off on Reuters in his tweets lately? https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/inside-story-elon-musks-mass-firings-tesla-supercharger-staff-2024-05-15/ Confirming the personal nature of this action - to show his exec who’s the real boss. And this...

Yeah the Hunter machine is what measured this it turns out. Tirerack agreed to swap the tire under warranty. Going tomorrow to change it and rebalance. Then need to ship tire back. $100 or so later I hope this turns out better. For the leaky half shaft boot I have service with Tesla on Wed among...

That’s how they all are. Mine is even worse on driver side but since that gap is present on all (gap is above door and no gap is rear quarter window) I decided not to bother asking them to correct it any time I did so some other damage was done. That piano trim chipping on rear quarter is from...

Unless made in early 2023, the car has HW4.

Some of the gaps you show like in the 3rd pic where the rear quarter trim meets the trim above rear door are normal and all Xs have them. But some of the other stuff is unacceptable of course. I guess that debate got settled. You won’t get a perfect vehicle with an X - they don’t exist.

what I’m saying is I would buy a demo or a showroom car or a near new used car if I can verify the so called repair is indistinguishable from new. Whether it’s an actual demo not being relevant, more like the warranty and state of the car. A repainted door can be inspected for color match and if...

are you allowed to see it? If you can’t tell the difference the inventory car may turn out to be better than the production one. I’d buy a demo if I’m allowed to inspect it.

I’d still get a Tesla but … From now on every Tesla I buy would be with a cashier’s check and after compiling a thorough list of quality checks at delivery including being able to open the car, doors, trunk. I’m going with a magnifying glass and a gap measuring device too. There’s no way ever I...

Try going thru this thread. Since you had this working for 6 months it doesn’t seem straightforward to reproduce. https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/20-ms-driver-seat-stuck.261820/ The tech telling you not to move the seat all the way back is BS needless to say. Insist on a proper fix...

I also have a model Y that’s mostly issue free. I’m not against Tesla in general, but I’m not at all a fan of how they operate when facing customer concerns. Certain design and execution issues of MX vehicles aside, my biggest gripe has been with service center experience. In contrast, mobile...

The Model X has serious quality issues imo. From the half shaft issues, to tire wear, to body panel and fitment and deteriorating cabin noises as the vehicle ages and inconsistent door sensor function. Not easy to fix. Love it when issue free but it hasn’t been.

In talks to tirerack to replace the right front tire as part of warranty. Will see what happens with the leaky half shaft boot when I go the the SC appointment next week - service ticket number 10 since December.

Count yourself lucky if the X doesn’t get cut in the next round of cost cutting. Don’t worry about the camera - I’d worry about the viability of this car as an offered product and a camera won’t change that (the ambient lighting nonsense is not even worth commenting on, completely useless feature)

Yes but why would it measure so? Wonky tire? I guess he is saying there are two separate issues - wonky wheel / tire and leaky half shaft boot. He wrote “R/F axle boot torn and losing grease” - isn’t that a sign of failing half shaft? Axle boot is the end of it no? Aside from asking Tesla to...

lol, unbelievable. Not that bad - in line with how Tesla fits its exterior body panels, but kind of terrible actually. Imagine if you iPad or iPhone came with gaps and leaked backlight. Why can’t someone just put a QC fail sticker before this makes it to the customer?

Road force measured and balanced my 2023 MXP today - stock height, 3k miles Left Front - 10 Right Front - 37 Left Rear - 20 Right Rear - 17 As you can see RF is too high and not in balance with LF. The balancing did not reveal a bent wheel though so the tire tech suspects “a front axle” issue...

Ok, so aside from the “glass smooth” debate, which is a bit of a distraction from the topic, I decided it was time for me to do true road force balance check as I never thought my MXP was glass smooth and a Tesla tech riding with me for an unrelated test drive told me he thought my front...

Speaking of HR, the head of HR itself quit a day or two after. Perhaps he didn’t take to her about it.

When you drive a beat up loaner Tesla from the late 2010s it becomes immediately clear it’s just like any other aged car - creaky, outdated interiors and technology. It’s less a “forever car” than a Subaru Forester and the huge insurance premium tells you something about the cost of repairs.

What I’m saying is - if Tesla can’t differentiate itself and reverts to what the worst examples of the regular dealer service experience are, then there’s nothing to write about regarding their service. It sucks - from the dirty, beat-up loaners, to the customer interactions and repair quality...

Time to lemon it. This a serious safety issue I would not want to own a car that does that

In my experience the Tesla service model is broken. It would be perfect if there was good quality control before the vehicle made it for delivery. As is, the service centers are overwhelmed, understaffed and rushed in their addressing issues likely due to management pressure to keep from...

Seems my thinking was likely along the lines of what happened: https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/3/24147402/tesla-supercharger-layoffs-stalled-ev-infrastructure-projects Quote: “According to a former employee who spoke to The Washington Post, Tinucci met with Musk privately before the layoffs to...

Just checked the vote results (not part of it as I don’t own an S and also don’t have says vibration in my X yet). Sad. “Glass smooth” with about 25% probability. And that’s definitely a statistically significant number of votes though there could be negative bias due to the thread topic.

lol what’s that supposed to mean, if you’re comparing the MSP to a formula 1 I’ve got bad news for you - its actually not a great track car either for all the power it has.

That’s seriously effed up. And I thought I had panel alignment issues and trim damage, this is nothing compared to this. Garbage.

I drove a demo S LR not over 100mph though. The suspension is OK didn’t impress me. No vibrations to speak off but not smooth either. It’s not the camera mount (though it does help), some vehicles are in a completely different class in smoothness. These claims remind me of the people who claim...

Haha no. It’s reality. Look at the video :). That said 160 to 190mph are serious speeds so not being glass smooth is not a reason to criticize a car at all. It’s easier said than done to dump it. I need to get Tesla to first fix the issues. Then I’ll consider selling it.

Haha no. It’s reality. Look at the video :). That said 160 to 190mph are serious speeds so not being glass smooth is not a reason to criticize a car at all. It’s easier said than done to dump it. I need to get Tesla to first fix the issues. Then I’ll consider selling it.

I’m skeptical of the glass smoothness claim not that it can hit 190mph, also the extra 600lbs have nothing to do with smoothness (that GT probably has close to 600lb on top of the Tesla and it seemed to glide like on oily glass in comparison). Aside from all of that - why am I skeptical? Because...

While we are on this channel- glass smooth at 190 mph is probably this. They test on the same roads and the MSP camera bounces like crazy in comparison. There would be a few cars a notch or two below that on the smoothness scale and they still wouldn’t be Teslas.

I have a Y that has none of these issues. Its suspension kind of sucks in comparison of the X but it never vibrates, and the fit and finish are not perfect but fairly good.

Service centers botching multiple delivery issues and being tired dealing with them. Whatever you usually read about under bad service experience stories. I’m just tired dealing with them 9 visits and counting. I have a promise for a body shop visit now but I fully expect them not to keep it.

You can guys dispel my healthy skepticism by mounting a camera and zooming in your side mirror at 160mph or 190mph 😃. But I’m glad someone vouches for the S. I’m close to giving up on my MXP which is not glass smooth at 100+ mph though that’s not my main complaint. Maybe I’ll eventually settle...

Maybe he didn’t read the post above but just the OPs question.

Had same issue on one side but not as bad - just lower part. Glued it myself using clear silicone as I can’t deal with service- have had numerous other issues they’ve made worse

That’s defending lazy. It can. For example if they use masking tape or if they actually spend the time to try different door adjustments that both don’t cause rubbing and don’t make the vehicle like Beavis and Butthead assembled it. It actually takes some more effort than they put in. And...

No it’s not just that. 2 rear quarter window replacements on both sides due to doors rubbing the trim, one done shoddily with urethane visible and they chipped paint. So not just a panel alignment. This is a little icing on the cake - done to address the balloon rubbing noises. My stance to them...

Glass smooth at 190mph? Unlikely. But good you like it.

Yep - asking them right now this very moment. Waiting for “Chris” or whoever has the authority at Paramus SC to tell me what am I supposed to do. I’m willing to give them one more chance to address my fairly obvious and reasonable concerns. Their latest effort to address door rubbing my paint...

I’m just now at Tesla service for unrelated issue and was test driving my 2023 MXP after sitting overnight on their lot in 50s temperatures. The cold vibration which it had from being newly delivered was right away apparent and the tech sitting in passenger seat noted it too but could not...

Did anyone force Tesla to agree to open its superchargers to other manufacturers? What’s being written here makes no logical sense unless they were. If it’s not in their interest to do so, because now some maybe more likely to not buy a Tesla EV, then why did they do it?

Yes my reference was in reaction to this news someone had just shared earlier on this forum.

Also, if “non major” items don’t qualify for lemon law, exactly where one fights for their right of an acceptable warranty repair for these items?