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  1. S

    I am frankly shocked by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is

    Apologies. I thought that was directed at me. Carry on please.
  2. S

    I am frankly shocked by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is

    Where do you get this crap from?! I absolutely have NO financial conflict of interest in whether Ford or Tesla does well or poorly. I currently drive a Ford truck (prefer GMs) but that's it. I in no way work for either company or even a supporting company in any capacity at all. Initially I came...
  3. S

    I am frankly shocked by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is

    Ford sells an EV truck, one considerably better than the CT for half the money. Your childish commentary isn't accurate and provides no info that benefits the conversation.
  4. S

    Cybertruck in Accident in Olathe, KS

    I can almost hear the CT owner's thoughts upon impact 'please buy this thing from me insurance, PLEASE!'
  5. S

    I am frankly shocked by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is

    The reason that used full size pickup trucks have insanely high resale value even well past 100K & even 200K miles, is that there is a high demand to purchase them in the trades. These are mostly working men, often immigrants, that are not going to have a housing situation that allows for...
  6. S

    I am frankly shocked by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is

    The CT front end seems like it would have great visibility, but I've read that it doesn't. I do sort of still dig the look of the frunk. Anyways, the Silverado EV is easily the best EV truck going and the RAM EV with a range extender will make EV trucks all but redundant/ useless. I mean why...
  7. S

    I am frankly shocked by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is

    At one time I too really liked the look of the CT. The thing about human nature is that initially we are drawn to new/ different/ modern as it seems fresh. However, it doesn't take long for trendy/ futuristic to look trite and overplayed. In 3 years, when everyone has already seen their...
  8. S

    Service Center Nightmares

    The good thing OP is that you still can sell your CT and get out unscathed. If you choose to ride this out for a year or two, you'll lose >$40K. Choose wisely my man (or woman).
  9. S

    I am frankly shocked by how stunningly ugly the Cybertruck is

    If the current CT had CONSIDERABLY better fit & finish, included your choice of a wrap color, and sold for $39.9K, it would be a fair value for a fun run around truck. But for what it does, costing what it does and still needing a $5K wrap (and regular replacements), looking exactly like every...
  10. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    He may or may not but it certainly lends credence to his words when he places himself at considerable career peril in stating them. Not that he said anything that isn't obvious about Musk with even the most casual observation, but 3rd party verification is nice to read.
  11. S

    Cybertruck Will Feel Dated By the Time it Comes Out?

    Tell us you are a single man that doesn't have to concern themselves with running out of juice with a child on a cold night or hanging out in an empty mall parking lot at 1am for 40 minutes charging as a female, without actually saying it out loud. Thanks!
  12. S

    Cybertruck Will Feel Dated By the Time it Comes Out?

    Where is Galbreath? Thx
  13. S

    Cybertruck Will Feel Dated By the Time it Comes Out?

    I always have a camper shell on my trucks as it allows me to store my high end mountain bikes safely inside. It's also great for the dogs, great for towing aero, ski trips, etc. The idea of the Silverado EV with a sleek modern camper shell sounds appealing, and being able to have the midgate...
  14. S

    Semi General Discussion

    EV Semi's aren't selling, really hardly at all. even where they are legislated to sell them in CA. This might change of course but that's the situation now. If Elon produced 1000 Tesla Semis/ week, he'd have 999 of them unsold every week based on actual industry numbers that I'm aware of...
  15. S

    So much for Tesla's no resale clause - 11 Cybertrucks currently on Ebay

    You'll be able to buy a nearly new CT for $85K in 90 days, and a normal used one for $55K in a year or 2 at the latest.
  16. S

    Interesting take on wrapping the Cybertruck

    The Silverado EV is 2x the truck the CT is. That's not any sort of comparison really.
  17. S

    Cyber(nota)truck even more Not a truck than I first thought

    Worth noting here is that GM came to market $10K LESS and with a full 10% more range with the EV Silverado, which was already class leading range btw. Not to mention that generally speaking their rated range is much more accurate than Tesla's. So, there is one at least that got 'early prototype...
  18. S

    Silverado EV

    All vehicles only cost a fraction of their actual production cost to build. The thing is that you have to amortize engineering, design, building plants, reduction of assets that could have been used for other projects, etc. which is why everyone needs to sell a lot to be profitable.
  19. S

    Silverado EV

    It was a joke Earl, but it's funny that you latched on to being able to see the screen in sunlight as your only complaint with my joke/ analysis. Which brings up another cheap ass thing, those roofs, which are awful, in TX anyways. Earl: ' Yes the cars are crap but that special bright screen...
  20. S

    Silverado EV

    How do they do it? No proper interior except a $99 iPad attached to the dash, small battery packs, cheap cast wheels, poor fit and finish and no paint on the CT. How do they sell them and make money at only $100K a pop? Amazing!
  21. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    I work in trucking in TX and domestic pickup trucks with 300K miles are a dime a dozen when driven by working men. My stepdad has 527K on his Ford F250, and it's a ranch truck. The guy 2 offices down has 380K on his Ram. I've had several over 200K & one over 450K when I was in college. A few...
  22. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    But why when the Silverado EV already does all of the things that you appear to want? The bed space, the battery capacity, the charging, not to mention the fit & finish, dealer support and even a lower price, etc.
  23. S

    Am I crazy? Model Y without home charger...

    This just a bad idea. It won't save the OP any money, but it will cause inconvenience and other limitations. A non-plug in hybrid is the correct choice for this application. EV's only make sense in a few situations, mostly you have a consistent home parking space with home charging (long-term...
  24. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    I'm no expert but I have read that paint won't stick to SS. If you think about it, can you think of any painted SS? When the CT was first announced the finish seemed great because it was supposed to be cheaper to manufacture due to no paint required, and less damage prone. It just doesn't...
  25. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    Legit, Tesla should offer a painted stamped steel version of the CT. The SS exterior is sort of a nightmare. Yah, it's resistant to door dings. However, it's expensive, stain prone (odd it's called stainless steel), can't be painted, can be wrapped but wraps are expensive, and are easily damaged.
  26. S

    Semi General Discussion

    Link please.
  27. S

    Cyber truck sighting Riverside California

    I guess it's an Austin thing because no exaggeration I spot 1-2 CTs every single day and have for a couple of months now. Of course all CTs pretty much look the same so it's probably the same 5 CT's that just live in the area. I see way more CT's than I see the Lyriq for example.
  28. S

    Semi General Discussion

    I'm in trucking as well and would love to be able to haul 88K legally. However, all that is happening is that due to freight backups at the LA Port, Newson is trying to increase the legal limit to 88K temporarily while leaving the port. Which won't work anyways as all the containers are packed...
  29. S

    Semi General Discussion

    This, sadly, is completely off base. Newsom has proposed issuing temporary permits as there are huge backups at the LS Port with ships just waiting offshore. It actually doesn't work for several reasons including the weights the trucks are meant to haul as well as how the containers themselves...
  30. S

    So much for Tesla's no resale clause - 11 Cybertrucks currently on Ebay

    I hear what you are saying about no need to reverse engineer, but it is common practice and frankly a very small part of their R&D budget and the asset can be sold off when done. Surely Ford and others want to see if Tesla did anything cutting edge in regard to the 4-wheel steering, the new...
  31. S

    Honest review of the Cybertruck

    I see 1-2 Cybertrucks per day here in Austin TX and have examined them up close when parked. Using my eyes, knowing the actual size of the battery pack and therefore able to predict real world range, looking at the (typical for Tesla) build quality, understanding the downsides of the SS...
  32. S

    How will Tesla Semi supercharge?

    CARB states will no doubt have EV Semi chargers sooner rather than later out of necessity.
  33. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    Can we just state the obvious? Full size truck/ SUV EV's are stupid, plainly put. Hybrid is the way. EV trucks just become a battle of who can install the largest battery packs, which isn't good for the environment, other road users, or the buyer's pocketbook. EV's make great second/ third or...
  34. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    The beach driving ban probably has to do with endangered animal breeding grounds or even the safety of beach goers. It's not about CO2 since there are also roads and parking lots very close by.
  35. S

    Anyone selling their Cybertruck?

    Apparently another CT sold for $75k. It was mentioned in an EV podcast.
  36. S

    Cybertruck Range Edmunds Test

    I don't know of many new vehicles sold that don't utilize start/ stop technology while stopped.
  37. S

    202X Roadster Delay Legal Action?

    There is no substantial battery technology on the immediate horizon, just incremental improvements. The Roadster would certainly be slippery and with a bit of Musk exaggeration thrown in could be rated for 350-400 miles at a typical EV sedan weight. There is no magic however and Musk is not...
  38. S

    202X Roadster Delay Legal Action?

    Fair point but at least your stock had a chance of making you more money. Prepaying for a car was always going to be a 100% loser, and every day that passes makes it more of one. A buddy years ago told me that he placed a deposit on a custom ordered Porsche and when the transaction was...
  39. S

    202X Roadster Delay Legal Action?

    I feel a bit sad for the OP but I'm going to lay it on the line: 1) your price is not locked in. The CT currently cost 2x what the tri-motor was promised at. 2) the CT is their newest and best tech. Think about that for a long moment. The CT, which real world gets about 1/3 of the promised...
  40. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    This would be a relevant point IF buying and operating a CT was less expensive, more reliable, or just better at something than a $45K crew cab ICE pickup, but they are not. You are paying an absolute premium, for less of everything. Pay an extra $30K-50K up front (could even say, buying 20...
  41. S

    Semi General Discussion

    Your point about percent of new truck purchases makes sense from the standpoint that Warner, Hunt, Walmart, etc. all purchase their fleets in other states.
  42. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    Tesla has the same batteries as everyone else. They do build light vehicles which helps but in the real world the size of the battery pack is most of what determines your range. Once you understand this reality you understand why the CT, on 35" tires with a 123 kwh battery pack, it going to...
  43. S

    Turdneau cover

    That sharp little nose is my personally favorite design feature of the CT. I think it just looks so cool although reviews say that the visibility still isn't very good. I like frunks, but I wouldn't add 18" of length to gain more of one.
  44. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    That's a bit misleading. Yes, the energy content is similar but the difference is that an ICE is about 35% efficiency where-as EV's are about 85% efficiency. The result of this is that the driving range of the EV Truck, even with only 4 gallons worth of energy, can make that energy go about as...
  45. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    In that case buy a 14 year old Mercury sedan driven by old people with 18K original miles for $3.5K and have the most economical and environmental sound motoring possible. They are a dime a dozen.
  46. S

    Semi General Discussion

    This article you linked doesn't even cover what we are talking about but instead is specific to the Drayage (Long Beach Port) ban on new diesels being allowed to register and enter the port post 1-1-24. Once again, a dealer has to sell the required percent of EV semis in CA to be allowed to...
  47. S

    Semi General Discussion

    Yes, people are just setting up businesses in AZ/ NV/ OR, etc. As long as they can show one trip annually out of the state at this time, they are fine. Also, I know of a guy that is just having his leasing company buy his truck and lease it to him in CA as a work around. CA is a HUGE trucking...
  48. S

    Semi General Discussion

    Not in a 2024 motor, unless the selling dealer has available diesel slots, as a result of selling 5% EVs. There are also some partial credits from selling CNG. There is a ratio, like a CNG truck = 2/3 of an EV or something like that. Also, cause the slots are limited, they are going to blow...
  49. S

    Semi General Discussion

    Not trying to argue, but just trying to clarify: Re: The first highlighted portion: they would sell at a loss because it's the only way they can legally sell diesel semis in CA as of today that actually make money and the Net profit is higher for the company. Re: The second highlighted portion...
  50. S

    Cybertruck is a scam.

    I too am in the 'it better be really silent and smooth for >45K', and really this is something EVs should be able to accomplish easily. I know the Lyriq I drove last year both felt and sounded very luxurious, smooth and quiet. I have an F150 Limited and it's the quietest truck that TFC has ever...