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BTW, I should also add, I did have a rattle in the headliner before. It was much more than a popping sound. Sounded more like a loose screw bouncing around. Mobile tech came out, said it was the safety strap for the headliner. The screw was loose allowing it the rattle. That sound was very loud...

So after tearing things apart about 20 times, I figured out the sound was actually coming from the door panel. Not sure if its the same sound you are hearing, but I finally narrowed it down by removing the pillar post interior panel and driving around. I had 2 different noises coming from the...

I am not going to worry about it yet, I have a little over 4 years of nem under the current proposal. At year 3 I will start investigating my options. Too much can change between now and then.

I think the minimums are based on service... My minimum electric bill is about $10 a month, I could not find anything for minimum on gas... This begs to ask the question, will they start wanting to charge us a minimum gas charge if we start replacing gas appliances with electric. :oops:

Because they won't be able to charge what they want. Even if we completely removed NEM, 0 credit on exports. I still come out way ahead than the current proposal. Current proposal my average bill will be about $200, no NEM at all, about $125, current bill is the minimum $10 as of now. The export...

This is my biggest issue with the fixed fees. I have a total of 12.7kw of panels, I would be extremely lucky to hit 9.5kw of output. There is also no consideration if the system is down, if the system has degraded over time etc. My original system installed 10 years ago outputs about 80% of what...

I ended up not doing the NGOM... My thinking was that I had about 10 years left of grandfathering, and have no idea if I will still be in this home that long. Now that CPUC is planning to reduce grandfathering, and the wacky fees they want to impose, $5k does not sound too bad for the meter and...

In my opinion ROI is the wrong way for CPUC to be looking at it in the first place. Why does it really even matter? It just sounds like they are trying to justify the hefty fees being imposed. Can anyone think the $8 per kw fee is fair? I could care less about NEM, kill it completely, but the $8...

Yep, my dad has been out for a few days now, he lives right above Auburn. I went up to help him bring up firewood, as I was leaving, all the lines down the street were on the ground from falling trees. As of now they have no ETA, but a friend who has connections was saying likely be mid Jan...

Many people don't care about saving money. My neighbor requested the previous owner remove the entire PV system, so she could pay a little less for the house. I have no idea what the discount was, but he did pull them, and sold them for cash. My understanding though, the discount was no where...

What else would you expect from an investor owned monopoly? I am usually not for government run... But this is a case where I think local governments should control their grid. My understanding is, PG&E sets a very high price if anyone wants to buy them out for a specific area so not likely a...

Kind of sounds like our tax system 🤣

The city next to me has their own public utility, they charge a flat $29 to be connected to the grid. Their rates are half of what PG&E charges. So every customer will pay at least the $29. PG&E should start by raising the minimum monthly charge, which I believe is about $10. Just doing this...

Well that is pretty obvious, if I buy something with the terms being 20 years, it should not change. The 20 years is posted all over PG&E, so its not like its some theoretic could go away term. No where that I have ever seen does the IOUs state that the 20 year grandfather is arbitrary and can...

I think you are missing the point, no one here thinks it should not change. The current system is too far in favor of solar. Personally, I am fine with the proposal of only wholesale on exports, and pay retail on imports. The per kw fee is what I think many think is excessive. Just changing NEM...

If I move 2 blocks away, my connection fee is less than $30. CPUC proposal puts my fee at over $100. 2 blocks away your total bill will be on average half what PG&E is. I would say simply charge every customer the same connection fee. On peak solar production hours, discount the export, if there...

Maybe they approved knowing they would get the last laugh.

If we want an all electric future, then we need to get the IOUs out of the way. They are the only thing standing in the way of people being able to go 100% electric, including an EV. I have lots of room for more solar, but after NEM3 there is no possible way I would be willing to invest in...

If we want an all electric future, then we need to get the IOUs out of the way. They are the only thing standing in the way of people being able to go 100% electric, including an EV. I have lots of room for more solar, but after NEM3 there is no possible way I would be willing to invest in...

Does this work with PG&E, and are you on TOU? Since my account was changed over to TOU, it now says I have an ineligible rate. Trying to get an idea if anyone else has it working, before I spend a lot of time on the phone with PG&E... This was something I had planned to do, was waiting for my...

The fees and export costs will be more than what I paid on average before going solar. One big reason going solar was to be able to use more energy. Of course, this was 10 years ago, but if I were to go back to what I did in the past, there would not be that big a difference, other than me being...

I did the calculations on that, and the fee is much more than the exported energy, at least for me. My fee would be about $1200 a year, my export at .05 is worth 300. So I would be all for, give them the exported and remove the fees... This would basically just remove NEM completely... But...

Thanks... This is worth looking into then, I would assume I would need batteries or different inverters. Hopefully some other options come to market if this is possible. Adding 2 batteries would get me down to only needing the grid in Dec/Jan except for extreme conditions. I have 4.5 years left...

My question is, can we have a non export plan, that would avoid the $8 fee? Based on my numbers, I would be better off with no export, and pay full retail for night time/winter usage etc. If all we get is a .05 discount, for me I would need to export 24,000 kwh to break even. That is unless I am...

So very true, especially with house prices skyrocketing. We kind of talk about it here and there, and comes back to property taxes. Been here about 13 years, if we move to similar priced home, our property taxes double. Just not worth it, that is unless we decided to move out of state, or...

In some instances it will be close. I have 2 systems, after this passes, my older smaller system would save me at best $150 a year. If it was too stop working, I would not even bother trying to fix. It has less than ideal placement (west facing), with multiple bad panels. Its generating maybe...

I wonder how many people quit paying on those leases and loans when they realize their monthly lease/loan payment + PG&E fees cost more than no solar at all. I know when I looked at the leases, you did not save that much over your normal PG&E bill. But you were generating green energy, and...

Yeah, I think one of my biggest issues with the per kw fee is trying to deal with it in the future when a system stops working, end of life etc. I think we all know, who has dealt with IOU that getting PTO etc can be a real pita. Its not gonna be a simple, unplug, call PG&E to remove the fee...

Based on some simple calculations for myself, basically no NEM would likely be cheaper than being paid for exporting. I could change habits a bit more and likely bring the number down even further. This is with no batteries at the moment... We already try to use appliances/charging/etc only when...

The question is, would we be able to have a non exporting tariff? I am thinking, no NEM is better then NEM3. The monthly fee would pretty much offset any savings with exporting. I would have to do the math, but simply giving us an option of no exporting, or simply not be paid for the export if...

Please don't suggest that, I could honestly see the government coming up with some similar idea. I can see it now, going to dmv every 2 years so they can check the odometer. :oops:

Yeah, I agree... What i have is 2 systems, a newer along with a small old system. The small old system has issues and is going to need repairs in the future. I just can't justify replacing panels, and repairing if it takes another 5-10 years to earn back those costs. Obviously will let it run...

Here is what is gonna happen, when people realize those costs outweigh the benefits, they will begin removing panels and systems. Under the new proposed rules, I will pull one of my systems offline. Is this better for CA? That means that green energy will be replaced with natural gas, is that...

What stands out to me "indicating that the NEM 2.0 program may result in an increase in rates for ratepayers.", key word may. Does not state it does, so it may, or it may not. Another "The study found that, after installing the NEM 2.0 system, residential customers on average pay lower bills...

Take a look at what anyone paid 10 years ago, cut them off at 15, they barely break even. I don't need to read the report, I have the numbers from my systems I have installed. Please go read all the responses from all the pro solar groups before thinking what CPUC believes is fact. Its not...

Problem with this is, these systems will be lucky to make it 15 years with no repairs. The life of the system is rated for 25, inverter is 10-15... So with these numbers, at the end of 25 years you paid more than you saved. My system is just a tad over 10 years, I need to have 4 panels replaced...

Based on those numbers I would not do solar again. My first system had a payback of about 10 years, after 10 years started having issues. Now its in need of repairs. So you finally get your money back, warranty is up, and bam something goes wrong. You are then paying PG&E for a non working, or...

Now just think for a moment, what would happen if half those systems went off at the same time, same day, and refused to turn back on until a fair deal is met.

I do not believe it resets, when I added my second system, they went off the original install date of the first system. I was told i could keep them separate, but would have to pay to have a second meter installed. I was never given a straight answer on the costs, but from what I could find it...

I could move 2 blocks away to be out of PG&E. The next city over has their own electric utility, rate is less than half PG&E... Obviously would be a bad financial move just to be out of PG&E... Maybe if the housing market crashed could be worth it.

I am 2 blocks from being in Roseville Electric... If I could go back in time, would have made sure to find a house on the Roseville side of my neighborhood. At the time had no idea how corrupt and expensive PG&E was. Our first bill was shocking, we lived in Roseville before. Normal bill in...

yeah, true... They still have some life left, when they die will re-evaluate. I was looking to replace perfectly good gas appliances with electric thinking the long term savings was worth it. I guess the only real fix is, move out of PG&E territory, which is not likely at this point.

The problem though, my first system was installed in 2010, and it cost 3x the amount my system in 2021 cost. I finally broke even with that first system, but now it needs repairs. I have 4 panels under performing or not working at all. Under the new changes, my grandfathering expires in 4.5...

I had been pricing out new all electric appliances, not anymore. New electric heater for the pool, not anymore.

I think at this point, we can't trust the 15yr grandfathering... So in 2 years when they need more money, they change again to 10yr... If you are planning solar now, cancel and wait until there are protections put in place keeping them from changing the rules later.

For one, per kw fee is not fair because not all panel installations are equal. If you are not southern facing, with 0 shade, you are not getting anything near rated panel output. My system does not generate well, because I have no southern facing panels, so we added more panels to make up the...

You're not talking about a small price increase, we are talking about going from $200 to $2000+ a year. From what I have read, the claim is the average rate payer pays an additional $200 per year because of NEM... So I guess going green should only be burdened by those willing to put up the cash...

There are many articles and studies that have debunked the cost shift argument. That argument is just something that sounds good... Evil rich solar users are being subsidized by the poor...

I would like to bring up the fact that PG&E rates have exploded since we purchased this home in 2008, I really doubt the rate tripled all because of solar users. Now, the city next to me, has their own city owned utility, guess what, their rate is less than half PG&E rates. Rates I keep kicking...

yeah, of course, more for them to legally steal.