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Maybe you can pull that check mark out of your garage tomorrow morning.:oops:

So it appears Elon's latest FSD boasts came during coffee breaks from his SNL rehearsals. Only fools and fans of the Charles Rocket era of SNL believe a single breath out of Elon's mouth these days.

Neither at the moment. I originally had an order last year for an M3 - but since they couldn't actually produce the car after 3 months (don't ask me why) - I'm cooling the heels - wanting to see other EV options - and to see what the refreshed S is out of the gate.

It does - and that is what I find quite infuriating about the Tesla experience. Let's face it... in the majority of consumer purchases... it is typically the product that has some issues... but if there's great service and support behind it... typically all will be well. But Tesla is defiantly...

It does - and that is what I find quite infuriating about the Tesla experience. Let's face it... in the majority of consumer purchases... it is typically the product that has some issues... but if there's great service and support behind it... typically all will be well. But Tesla is defiantly...

And I agree with you -- Wall Street doesn't care about what I care about. Hey - I do hope the refresh is a home run. I'd love to see some reliability out of the gate - then might actually consider another S down the line. For now - remain skeptical.

Too bad that what Tesla is really good at is expanding the truth. Their timelines for the release of the refreshed S and X were an absolute joke, and continue to be the case. Elon claims autopilot had no role with the recent crash in Texas... lie. Elon signs contracts for solar roofs then...

OK - but if you were running your own business (and maybe you are) - I seriously doubt you'd plan on making your mortgage payments based on the stock market having a good quarter - or "hoping" your speculative investments go up in the next few months. If these guys haven't been able to scale...

Look - Musk can only make profit by buying / selling Bitcoin and selling emissions credits. If you take both out of the equation - it was another quarterly loss. Some day the peasants may get a clue.

The SNL production cycle typically starts on Monday each week - with the host becoming heavily engaged with walk-throughs and rehearsals by Thursday. How does Musk -- Mr. "I sleep on the factory floor and work 100+ hour weeks," have the time or inclination to do stuff like this? I'm sure all...

This has been a fascinating thread. It seems as if your "lemon laws" in the UK are much more consumer friendly than on our side of the pond. You would think Elon would take his recent hard knocks from China to heart. But hearing your stories... I'm not so sure.

That is so true. I still have my 2005 Lexus in addition to our Model S. It is as drum solid and reliable as ever. I still marvel when I take it on the road. Surely Tesla can get 1/2 way there ? That doesn't seem so difficult -

Kinda scary indeed. I remember when Lexus / Honda / Toyota started building their plants in the USA - but most of us wanted to make sure we were getting one of the "Made in Japan" vehicles if at all possible. Maybe Berlin or Texas will get their acts together -

Didn't recognize it. That was the only sentence in your post - so kind of hard to see otherwise. But if it was - OK my mistake.

Excuse me sir... you are either Elon incognito - or must own almost as many TSLA shares as he does. Back here on planet Earth - Teslas with issues are not outliers. As a Californian, it's kind of embarrassing that an assembly plant down the highway can't get its act together, particularly...

I would too -- especially since you used "Fearfully" "Uncertain" and "Doubt" in your single sentence !

I would say there is a better chance of Portugal annexing Spain - than believing this particular vehicle won't have more issues in the near future. Teslas just seem to follow the path of either perfect vehicle or reliability nightmare. This is just an organic opinion - but I've owned and...

Yep Yep Yep Yep Yep It's so nice to hear the voice of reason pop up on occasion.

This is the brilliance of Elon. Empty marketing which many can seize upon, but no one can hold him or the company accountable - since he's slimier than a slug in a can of WD-40.

Apple knows how to roll out new product. Maybe Elon should have been a little nicer to Tim all of these years.

Yep - generally amazing cars that require unusual patience on the back end. It seems that there is a huge variance in SC competence across the states - so if you're near a good one - that helps quite a bit in the Tesla journey.

Much of the crypto mantra reminds me of a finance professor I had way back when. His message was in regards to the stock market - but the reasoning still applies. If I really had the golden key to making money off of crypto - why would I share it with anyone else ? I'd keep my mouth shut...

How are they explaining that the car is no longer under warranty ? What reasoning / shenanigans are they resorting to ? This sounds like my story all over again...

OK - not a bad list at all. The door handles can be a real bug-a-boo (I've had 3 handle repairs on 2 different doors at this point) - but the other items seem pretty mild indeed.

In that case - if you're out of the country - don't worry about it and enjoy wherever you may be. I really try to stay away from cliches - but you are in the driver's seat of this transaction - so just make sure everything is done to your satisfaction prior to taking that key fob.

Welcome to the bewildering world of Tesla. In particular, the bewildering pre-owned world of Tesla. It sounds like the car has arrived at your nearby service center. I would drop by - unannounced - and ask to see the car in its current state. If they refuse to show it to you - that's a...

How can there be a viable update ? This morning, Elon has taken the time to thank his suppliers for "critical parts." We can all theorize about these critical parts. Let's assume these parts are necessary for S's and X's to roll off the assembly line. You can construct your own timeline...

So here's an interesting real world observation about Crypto. This steers far and wide from the theoretical / mathematical / philosophy behind its construct. But still worth noting, from my view of who invests and believes in it - at least in my world. I know of 3 family members actively...

Yes - but Elon has a lovely history getting into trouble with the SEC for his lies and other silliness in his Twitter pronouncements. So if the CEO announces that cars were in production - which was obviously a lie -- I suppose one could argue this materially affected investors and...

The guy who washes cars at the SC in Akron, Ohio does not count as your "someone internally" contact. I just love folks on the forums who refer to their imaginary internal friends -

Videos are swell -- but there's kind of a difference between watching porn and having sex -- and the only thing Elon seems to be good at for the moment is producing a lot of porn.

What kind of videos is Tesla supposed to provide ? Elon watching Grimes get another tattoo ? Let's be serious -- even if Tesla uploaded a video of a revised Model S waiting in the drive-thru line at In-n-Out -- we'd know nothing more than the driver was dying for a double-double. Consumers...

Gee... maybe I should go work for Elon. I could never get away with radio silence - and choose not to (???) communicate with my clients in my current organization. I think they also call it... bad business.

First Tesla - shame on them. Second Tesla - They did it to me again - I don't want to become the poster child for "shame on me.' Third Tesla - I'm tired playing the fool. Hello Mach E - ID 4 - Ariya - E-Tron etc I'm still on the "First Tesla" stage. I'm moving quickly to Stage 3...

Yep - I'd never suggest a Leaf for a big road-tripper. Personally - I'm curious about the Ariya - which may show up by EOY. Supposedly will have about a 300 mile range with available AWD - in a kinda cross-overy package.

I agree with you that any multi-billion dollar company isn't going to spout out solely in regards to some allegations flying around the internet. But if nothing else - if "legitimate" or "traditional" media such as CNBC have at least picked up on the story, smart companies will at least have an...

Back in the 1970s - before the USA went insane - my father ordered a FIAT (don't ask me why) which he could drive around Europe and then ship back to the US after his trip. He landed in Turin - went straight to the factory - and his 131 Brava was sitting in a showroom, ready for its first...

Talking about Elon and teats is kind of creepy to those of us who don't live amongst farm animals. And none of what has gone on explains the eternal radio silence from the company when anything goes wrong - on a macro level or on an individual ownership level.

My niece has a Leaf - newer model with upgraded battery and range - and loves it. Fun to drive - quick - has been as reliable as we all hoped Teslas would be. If you're not a hard-core road tripper and can live with the 225 mile range - it's worth a look.

Europe gets to wait even longer - I was chatting with some owners in the UK who were ticked off about the lag. Considering the European automakers' EV's are popping up like crazy - this is going to be another ding in the Tesla armor.

Oh Lordy in heaven - I have never had a successful chat with anyone from the chat customer service. Yes - I agree it's been relatively easy to get someone to respond - but getting actual help towards the variety of actions I've needed assistance with... nope.

Most people are not aware that Elon has hired his 9 year-old nephew to input random delivery dates, just to screw with everyone during their interminable wait. On the days his nephew is otherwise occupied - a series of rotating primates are taking over -- starting with "Ruby" the chimp from the...

Of course- be on your toes for the plunging trade-in offer during your eternal wait...

Yeah - I think so too. Though whoever does the blogging may be hoping he / she may catch Elon's eye...

When you say you completed your trade-in... does this mean you gave Tesla your car - or got a price from them you liked ?

What's with the black-on-black look ? Was Johnny Cash visiting Fremont that day ?

I will say - if Tesla customers have a 0% chance of speaking to a human being at the company - it would be rather frustrating if the media were treated any differently.

Folks - when are y' all going to realize Tesla timelines are about as accurate as a $12 Rolex ? They mean nothing. I was foolish enough to believe they meant something when I ordered a Model 3 last year, and the 4 week estimate turned into 8 weeks, then 12 weeks, then finally a cancelled...

Hang in there for sure - but remember you're part of the "customer" team, not the "Tesla" team. The problem with Team Tesla is that those cyborgs you refer to have more common sense than anyone on the payroll.

If Tesla is using "expected" and "generally" in the same sentence - that means your Model S will show up about the same time the next Model T shows up in Detroit.