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The governor signed the fiscal 2022 budget today, and assumedly the funding for this is in there. Anyone have any idea what the next step is?

Thanks for clarifying.

I don't think they are just trying to single out Tesla owners. The top trim levels of the Kona and Niro (and no doubt other cars too) fit in that category.

Sounds as if they are out of luck. Did the State actually tell them that, or did someone merely assume that would happen? See the last paragraph of page 28 here: https://www.bpu.state.nj.us/bpu/pdf/boardorders/2021/20210624/8B%20ORDER%20CEP%20FY2022%20Budget.pdf

Is it correct that it's still subject to the formal approval of the overall Fiscal 2022 budget by the state legislature and governor? Would it be correct to assume at this point that is a rubber stamp?

Can't speak first hand to post warranty experiences, but I've heard the same warnings and therefore worried about going "naked" without a warranty. It's good that the battery and drive units are covered long term, but my concern is expensive electronics. What happens when the main display...

I have also never heard of such a thing, whether it be Tesla, BMW, Porsche, or Nissan.

Always amused when someone is called out for posting misinformation and they try to steer the discussion away from it :-)

The Niro EV is a short range vehicle? That would mean the M3SR+ is also a short range vehicle. Never heard that one before. Saying the Niro is short range is analogous to comparing the M3LR to the M3 Performance and saying the LR is underpowered.

Can totally understand why you would personally desire that if you want to buy a car with long range. But how does incentivizing people to buy longer range EV's reduce emissions? Should not the goal simply be to maximize the number of EV buyers who without the program would have bought ICE...

I find it strange that Hyundai clearly has a huge glut of inventory of Kona EV's here in New Jersey, but yet most Kia dealers here have little if any Niro EV inventory. 12 to 18 months ago it was near impossible to procure a Kona EV. Wonder why the situation with Kona EV's has changed so...

Agree very few Kia dealers sell Konas. That's because it's a Hyundai :) No worries, I know the brands are related, and folks seem to get them confused all the time. But I have to disagree with you on availability. I live very close to you, and one of the Hyundai dealers closest to you (if not...

I don't understand. The Bolt has good range and the Kona does not? I thought the '22 Bolt is 259, the Bolt EV is 250, and the Kona is 258?

Curious why you would say the Bolt is competition, but the Kona EV is not.

The $53,800 means nothing as Tesla (nor anyone else, but a fool) will pay you anywhere near that. The other problem is everytime Elon reduces the new price it's going to hurt used value of our cars.

Also, as new M3's become easier and quicker to procure that's not going to help the used values.

Great, but you have to point out the other cars shown are rather dissimilar to the M3. What would be more significant would be a comparison to ICE cars that buyers are likely to be cross-shopping with the M3.

Very very well said.

Responses in CAPS If you read the analysis of how J. D Power scored you will see that they did not factor in the electric engine or drive. They did not score the computer. NOT TRUE AT ALL. POWER SPECIFICALLY SAID OWNERS REPORTED FEW PROBLEMS IN THESE AREAS. They concentrated on gaps in panels...

I have a difficult time believing anyone who has been a member of this forum for more than a few weeks could really have any doubts regarding what the Power people said about what caused Tesla to rank last in the survey. Sure, some problems are more serious than others, but if Power started...

Actually they do. And here's some insight: Tesla's cars and SUVs had 250 problems per 100 vehicles, compared with an industry average of 166. The next five worst-scoring brands were Land Rover (228), Audi (225), Volvo (210), Mercedes-Benz (202) and Jaguar (190). In general, luxury brands...

No doubt some of the complaints are for problems many of us would deem to be not very serious. But why would you suspect Tesla would have a higher proportion of those non serious complaints versus any other manufacturer? Is the average Tesla owner unusually fussy about their car? I don't see...

So you think Tesla had all these complaints because of all the features they have? Ok, premium brands (which tend to have more features) generally ranked lower. But at most that explains only a small fraction of the survey results. There were a number of premium brands that ranked above...

That's the whole point about JD Power not being biased or subjective. All complaints are deemed to be equal. Any attempt to do otherwise could be deemed to be subjective. In an attempt to discredit the survey, guess someone could blame it on Tesla owners being more picky and/or more prone to...

Unfortunately the JD Power results blow the myth of the "silent majority" not having problems or complaints out of the water. Sure, there are are plenty of owners with no problems or complaints. But individual comments don't mean much statistically. A survey of a large group of owners is going...

I think it's easy to assume that a very high percentage of the problems do eventually get fixed, and that the same thing goes for pretty much every brand. Some people don't mind much getting their problems sorted through even if it takes multiple dealer visits. I'm in that group so long as...

There are plenty of owners who have had no serious issues. But unfortunately when JD Power surveyed huge numbers of new car buyers, Tesla owners reported far above the average number of initial problems with their new cars. Don't blame it on JD Power. All they did was tabulate what the owners...

Sorry but you don't know what you are talking about. Dealer prep at Ford and Chevy dealers? When was the last time you worked at one? You may be referring to 40 or 50 years ago. Today delivery prep for nearly all the units is essentially just a good cleaning. No reason Elon can't match...

You need to be realistic. The Y still has teething problems just as most new models do irrespective of the manufacturer. I would never buy a car where the closest warranty service is 4 hours away. Not a knock on Tesla, but the same for any manufacturer. IMO you would just be setting yourself...

Are you by chance related to the public official in Kansas who told the Kansas City Star the virus is not a problem in his area because few Chinese people live there? Kansas official says coronavirus isn't a problem because there aren't many Chinese people there

Really? And where would that be?

There are also potential liability issues if you get in an accident while towing beyond the manufacturer's stated weight limits (which at least right now for the Y are zero). Are you sure the frame can handle what you are planning to tow? There are also potential warranty issues. Certainly...

All good points, except I wonder if Mini survives. But do you agree with the OP BMW will be bankrupt in 2022? That's the claim I find to be totally unsupportable.

The notion that BMW will be in bankruptcy in 2022 is absurd. What are you projecting their profit will be this year? And for 2021 and 2022? Continuing to spout out their profit was down 28% last year without more detail does not mean a whole lot on it's own. Funny how you don't mention the...

OP's claim about BMW being bankrupt 2 years from now is laughable, and makes me question everything else he is saying. As other's have pointed out he conveniently ignores the facts that dispel his claims. One need not even bring the German government into the equation. Even if the virus kills...

Not sure what having a sports car (at least in the U.S.) has to do with 130 mph (unless you are tracking the car, and even in that event you likely are not exceeding 130)

No doubt some are buying SUV's for no reason other than it's the thing to have today. The vast majority of days I don't need the extra room of an SUV. But one of my vehicles has been a medium sized SUV for the last 20 years. And perhaps 10 or 12 times a year I need that room (some Costco runs...

Tesla's excuse for not closing is bogus and the height of arrogance. Let's see Ms. Workman stand in front of a county judge and explain why she thinks the county order is not clear and there is something from the state or feds that override it. Nice try. If they won't close right away the...

I've heard about this before, but really did not understand what's going on. Seems crazy. Is this just a few innocent mistakes or are they trying to pull something over on us? Tesla Clearly Confused About Secondhand Vehicle Sales

No one ever said this is going to kill everyone. Please. And relaying the experience Italy is having is not fear mongering...it's supposed to be a learning moment. If you were in Italy right now you would be mortified what's happening, and I guarantee you your attitude would be far different...

Want facts? I certainly would not rely on the Chinese. 3 weeks ago in Italy there had been 7 deaths. Now there's more than 2500 dead, and another 2500 seriously or critically ill. The healthcare system is overwhelmed and people who can't get care for other illnesses are dying because of it...

The recent capital infusion helps a lot. Run the numbers. Tesla could easily survive a 90 day plant shutdown, but it would not be pretty to be a shareholder.

Very scary and amazing to hear people still making arguments like this. This is exactly what happened in Italy. 10 days ago many people were not taking the warnings seriously. Look at where they are now. Hospitals are overwhelmed, and doctors are having to make decisions between who lives...

Maybe used car values will go up if there is a shortage of new ones?:) Probably not given so many manufacturers are sitting on boated inventories. Then again, many of those bloated inventories are models few people want.

How can you possibly compare the need to keep a car assembly plant with thousands of workers open versus a supermarket or hospital at this time? What could possibly be the need to keep it open? Besides the fact that the video shows they were not taking the needed precautions. Get the feeling...

Congrats!

He could certainly challenge the order in court but good luck with that in the state of California. Hopefully his legal counsel is making that clear to him. On top of that can you imagine all the negative PR (profits over people) that would result. But most of all it's time for Elon to fully...

There used to be other assembly plants in the Bay area, but they are long gone. Unfortunately part of the reason is the high cost of doing business in CA. For example Ford had plants in Milpitas and Richmond. Would think you will start to see assembly plants elsewhere start to shutdown, some...

This video dispels that hope. It's from the Fremont plant this morning showing workers boarding the shuttle buses to remote parking. As you can see they have been well trained in social distancing...not! I'll wait for my car. The plant needs to be shut down NOW! Russ Mitchell on Twitter