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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    This is practically worthless. Needs to be a survey of voters and how they are going to vote. Probably very hard to get an accurate cross section due to all the institutional ownership but I don't see another way to make an informed prediction.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    The two people I've known killed on motorcycles were both sitting at stoplights and were plowed into from behind. This generally won't happen on a bicycle. Maybe my observation isn't the most common way people die on motorcycles but I suspect it's one of the most common. Never the less, I'm...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    You two must not be skiers because you would know the feeling of being way out over your skis.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Geez, I hope this isn't true. Elon needs to understand there aren't enough "Elons" in the world to fill up a company the size of Tesla. Edit: Did Elon say it applies for a limited time, such as "for the next year" or something like that? I've worked hardcore, maybe 60 hours a week, for...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Is this just the second time or is it the third or fourth for Fisker? In 20 years, I wonder how much a well cared for Fisker or Lucid will be worth?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hey, we're like you... except... I'm the one driving the damn Leaf.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Is Baidu going to be a customer of Tesla to utilize FSD technology or are they just providing mapping data?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I hope that 320 gets here before my truck because I don't want to have to sell shares for less than 300.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Well then you're making a different topic out of his Tweet. That guy is wired differently than 99.9% of the population. He's a combination of highly intelligent and next-level compulsiveness. It worked for him, sometimes that combo is disastrous. By the way, I'm pretty sure he was single...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I meant, do you agree with what he said in that tweet about the Chancery court? You seem to be discounting the tweet due to the way he plays tesla stock.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Do you disagree with what he is saying?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    There is truth to that statement but it's more broadly true to simply say a fool and his money soon go their separate ways.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'm sorry, I forgot what your comment was. Do you own 155,000 shares?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Does each version lean as it goes? When I got the free trial, it took a curve on my street in a wonky way. I didn't disengage, but ever since, it has take that curve just fine. I also had to disengage because it was going to miss an off-ramp from the freeway, but since that one time, it's...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    It would have to go to vote, like his compensation package, but entities such as Blackrock and Vanguard probably would approve it. I admit, I know NOTHING about the inner workings of such things but I know Elon wants control over AI and this is the only alternative I can think of if his first...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think the vote on Elon's compensation package is the most important thing right now. If that package isn't approved I think he may have a backup plan that most of us won't like. Elon wants to have 25% control over the direction of Tesla AI. If he can't get that, plan B will be to split up...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My general observation is, back in the day she used large cap tech stocks such as Google and Apple as her bank which she would use to fund her purchases of promising tech companies such as TSLA, NVDA, ZOOM and Zillow. Some of those of course were busts but her winners carried the fund...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Friend was a career Oakland cop. He said they love a good high speed chase. He also said after they catch the perp, they will tell them it was a good chase. Objective being to build rapport so they are more willing to talk.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    ??? We pay 14 cents in PA. What area are you in? I'm in Lancaster.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    For me this changed with the free trial of FSD. I prefer driving toward the right and was always uncomfortable with how far left Driver Assistance positioned inside the lane Additionally, my car would always yell at me for driving to the right. Now with FSD installed, the car is driving to...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Hey, I'm not banned anymore! Since Elon's lieutenants talked him out of going all-in on Robotaxi, and pursuing 25k as an insurance policy, can we safely infer the rest of the team now has Elon level confidence in Autonomy?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Share holder movement: https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1nAJEaDrWvXJL?s=20
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If the decision fall to her, she will award MORE than what they are asking for. I'll be shocked if I'm wrong, and I will be certain someone talked to her in a back room conversation for the purpose you suggest. I see that as a very low probability though.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Krugerrand, you're knocking it out of the park this morning but I have to admit I was a happier person before understanding this is all about gaining power over Tesla.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Is it even a legal team? What I read just stated one attorney.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If we vote Elon to have an even better deal, can we have the lawyers pay for 10 percent of the difference?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Consideration? I'm not a lawyer but the way that's written, they could say "sure, we considered it and decided not to" or "we changed our mind later".
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    If this is the case, why did he wait so long to file the suit? I take the long wait as part of the evolution of Elon's mindset toward fighting for what's right, even if sure to lose. PS after reading Art's post: If this is filed in Delaware, we know the answer. I now see the case is filed in...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Doesn't matter. Open AI was started as a nonprofit and funded with a 100M donation from Elon under the premise that it is nonprofit and open sourced. The question this suit will answer is, is Open AI obligated to remain nonprofit and open source or can they take Elon's donation and later...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes, but mostly I just bask in the rapture of envisioning Dolores Umbridge, uh uh, I mean Missy Cummings, blowing a fuse when she reads these posts saying 1-60 in 1 second.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'll watch this for sure. It will be interesting to see how Steven is this time. First time I saw him as a guest, I think with Dave Lee, he came across as open and honest. The second time, with someone else, he was gaming the conversation and throwing in a lot of revisionist history. I...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Done. My 16 year old now has 21 shares.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    My big investment angle right now is for the price of COIN to surpass the price of TSLA so I can sell my 2 shares of COIN and purchase 2 shares of TSLA. Wish me luck with my endeavor.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    ? Is the concept of a "stack" still relevant with V12 and the neural net?
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I'm not sure if Toyota's efforts are desperation or stubbornness. On one hand they might feel they waited too long and are too far behind on the EV transition so they need to hope for a miracle breakthrough to allow them to out Tesla Tesla. On the other hand, they might be too stubborn to take...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Money supply is something I thoroughly DO NOT understand. In 2020 the word was 'they' quintupled the money supply. My thought upon hearing that was "oh my god, that means inflation will 5X". Since then, the FED had acted to control inflation. I also don't understand what the FED can do and...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    In grammar school I won a scholastic competition (I know, hard to believe). As a prize I had a choice of a trophy or and Indian Headed Nickel. As a bone-head third grader, I chose the trophy.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Audubon is really just trying to confirm his suspicions about who of us are high school dropouts.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I doubt the way I do it crosses any lines. It doesn't really matter though, I'm not publishing anything, it's just intercompany communications. Regarding verifications, I just use Google to double check any information I'm not sure of.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Verification. These services write and organize better than I do so I use them as a model for my writing.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Do you have a feel for how much better the subscription version is compared to the free version? I use the free version (and Bard/Gemini) nearly daily and find them very useful. On topics I know well I always see mistakes so regardless of my knowledge on a topic I always use it more as a...
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Dropping in to point out that TSLA has a lower PE than Costco.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    I think they will simply file an appeal, then it will become news.
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    Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

    Yes we do. Not the date but we know the circumstance. When Elon gets his new compensation package. I've been saying for a year, Elon doesn't care about the share price because the share price no longer is relevant for the mission. I was completely wrong. Elon cares about the share price and...