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It's accurate to say the wipers are broken, Tesla likes to play a game with every update. They either dry wipe or they don't wipe when it's pouring. I think they just flip a coin.

You post like no one has thought of that. Tesla needs to make a serious shift, in new cars they should drop the whole AI wipers entierly and add the sensor. Those of stuck without a sensor they need shift to only using AI for detection and drop this entire one size fits all solution that works...

I would happily go back to radar enhanced autopilot maybe 6 months to a year after the launch of the M3. It was just such an absolute dream on the highway in commuter traffic. I did several roadtrips and you could cruise for hours and never have an issue, never get nagged. It was so nice to...

It's the same as every release it will have improvements and fix situations that it didn't handle well. It will also introduce new issues and do things badly it didn't before. It tends to stay to the right better now and not get confused and drive down the center thinking a lane is 50 feet...

First run on 12 this morning. Lots of speed issues on the highway, it detected poor weather conditions several time and reduced speed. Roads were perfect but it was overcast. It thought a left exit ramp as a passing lane and tried to use it. Tried to pass on the right several times. Nags are...

You can turn it off but never go back to radar autopilot, I found it much more reliable and stress free.

My next car will probably be the Rivian R3. I will always own an EV but Tesla has been going the wrong way for me for a few years now. I have FSD and I would pay to be rid of it and go back to radar autopilot. I just want the simple things like being able to control the windshield wipers and...

There have been a lot of lies about FSD and I am embarassed I ever believed it. That was a slap in the face, this is just a really bad t-shirt folding machine.

Running errands today with the Holiday Update and not once did the car open properly. With every parking lot a mad house it’s super frustrating. If you have any last minute shopping to do I would hold off.

Man the nags are brutal, once they start they just won’t stop. Autopilot used to be super helpful when you have to eat on the run. Now it’s just having someone bitching at you. They must have added something so once it thinks your not paying attention t goes into like backseat driver mode.

This new version is horrible on the highway. Every truck I pass it swerved so far left it hits the rumble strip. I had to take control constantly to avoid spitting loose rocks from the dirty part of the highway. People that drive like this are idiots and they programmed it in. Is it that hard...

This happened to me while driving and it was brutal, thought I was going to be a goner.

My software crashed while driving and did complete reset, lost everything. Driving at night in the rain and barely managed to get safely stopped. The hvac went full blast right in my eyes, I thought I lost headlights but I think it was just fog lights turned off. wipers stopped, it was complete...

I used to love enhanced autopilot. It was a dream on the highway in pretty much every situation. Tesla Vision is a major step backwards and I would happily downgrade back to radar and abandon all future upgrades. I have just lost all confidence in it and Teslas direction. It really was a...

The signalling drives me a little nuts, I would like if it gave you some indicator in the car before it actually blinked the blinker. So you could cancel when it makes no sense and not look like an idiot. I hate when the car is just randomly signally for no reason and you see cars around you...

All I want is the option to confirm before moving the seat. I’m tall and my wife is not, I’m am so sick of the car playing trash compactor with me.

Yeah car was perfectly in the lane just lots of angry beeping.

I just got an autopilot strike completely out of the blue. Just on the highway hand on the wheel and it went crazy I didn’t brake but hit the stalk up to disengage. It gave me the neutral warning, then disabled autopilot for remainder. It’s never gone nuts like this I didn’t see any blue warning...

Bummer I was hoping to get back in but I think I am already to far ahead with 2022.28.2. What is the actual FSD firmware?

I suspect your answer was no to FSD and that makes your purpose here very apparent.

With Tesla taking away radar I decided to jump back into the beta pool. I really was hoping to keep radar but I knew I would eventually want something in a future update so not updating was futile. Man it sucks to have to do the damn safety score again, I really hope I get lucky with the...

Its interesting reading your comments after a couple months. It has been a month since I downgraded back to enhanced autopilot and I am much happier. I don't love the money I wasted as to me the upgraded computer doesn't provide much value without FSD. It is strange to me how solid autopilot...

Well, everything is back to how it was when I had radar. I can set the lowest follow distance and the follow distance actually works. I know Elon has said the car doesn't need radar anymore and it works better without it but driving experience in the two different softwares is night and day...

I started sending Opt Out emails just after the last update, took about a month and couple emails a week but they finally put me back on the non FSD software last night. I have to say it is glorious, just being able to use autopilot and it is smooth, consistent and can maintain a proper...

Mine just tried to go straight in the left turn lane with the signal light on, would have put it into the oncoming lane. This is a major step backwards.

I'm downloading now, so probably going out to more users. I really wish when I disable FSD I could return how my car was in the past. FSD is a novelty that is great to see were they are at as far as progress and performance. The reality of it, it's just like teaching your kids to drive with...

Whatever the cause getting FSD is a significant degradation to autopilot. I don’t think I ever set higher than 4 follow distance before I got FSD, in rush hour 1 was perfect. Now on the highway at night I’m at 7 and it still rides right up on cars if they slow down. The car doesn’t judge...

Autopilot is so degraded with the loss of radar. I’m hanging on by thread waiting for the next FSD update before I opt out.

The biggest disappointment for me is losing radar. Had a pretty long stretch of stop and go due to highway construction and I was surprised how poorly it performs. Autopilot with radar was amazing in these situations, city commute was a dream, smooth and relaxing. Now it just does not judge the...

My only point was it is not going to massively accelerate the software like people are predicting. As a software engineer that uses this technology in a different field I do not see any actual evidence to support many of the claims being made. If you have ever been involved in an actual...

I think you are just just splitting hairs based on language. I myself with this beta software have never been asked to provided feedback or been given any parameters around testing. I am sure they have employees and internal testing that does this job but the vast majority of customers running...

Only that I have trained a neural network and use machine learning professionally. It is not some magically thing that just learns by itself. You have to teach/train it to do what you want. You can't just throw information at it and expect it to learn and give you positive results. A funny...

The number of users in the beta will not corelate to any increase in development. When your training a neural network data is key but it has to be good data. I don't see any way the data from the fleet is being filtered. I know in my driving sometimes intervene because the car is going to...

Now that I have had the beta for a little while, sadly I think it's still a long way off. I know they think they can get it done with these cameras but the car just does not seem to see that well. There are basically two major issues. First is how well it can see and collect data. This is...

My biggest complaints are that intervening with the steering wheel will not give you full control. It just drops into cruise control and the car can accelerate unexpectedly. Also it drives way to fast in residential areas. It just defaults to the speed limit plus whatever percentage you have...

Autopilot is still makes too many mistakes on dark rainy west coast nights. I find it really bad around big trucks. If a car is overtaking and gets scared or lost in the spray coming of the truck autopilot will just drive right up on his ass. Then just sit there and hang out if you take over...

I jinxed myself had to to stop for a light on a hill. I tried to smooth it out as best I could and was holding both thumbs before I even stopped but still got hit with hard braking.

I think whatever they are using to determine hard braking and cornering is affected by incline. There is a big hill on the the route my wife takes to the gym and she has been dinged on it. I got hit for cornering on an oddly banked on ramp.

You must be new to this whole Elon/Tesla estimating technique :)

Yeah you can totally tell the camera is not picking up the light at all, it's just image compression. I love how the cameras always capture two images the one everyone sees and the magic one that is much better that they actually use but no one gets to see. :)

Tesla and their stubborn insistence on vision is weird. It just goes against ever principle of design. Why would you ever just say we are sticking with this path no matter what. Why would you not continually improve and compare both options. It's just like their decision to use vision to...

I find the safety score is making me a much poorer driver. The scoring has little to no affect on actual safety. It's laughable that any car would be considered unsafe with a fraction of a G applied. Maybe if your live in the country and drive like your walking. If you have any other drivers...

So I took a spin to try and improve my score and I realize the secret. All you have to do is drive so that everyone around you thinks it’s time for that guy to hand in his license he really shouldn’t be behind the wheel anymore. Got my first 100 today.

Man this safety score is silly. Making lefts on yellow lights you really have to doddle in the intersection even the slightest acceleration and you get aggressive turning, also you have to make rights into places so slow as to piss everyone off behind you. I get forward collisions crossing...

I spend countless hours of hassle trying to get Tesla to deal with this and mobile refused I had several in person service appointments created and cancelled. I eventually got a human being on the phone from the local Tesla service center and they just didn't know the bulletin existed till I...

Yeah the first picture in my first post is the one I sent to make the appointment. The second picture is the day mobile came and the car had been in the garage for a few days. This is my passenger side it’s more just fog that comes and goes I sent it to them as well when I made the appointment...

Do the later models not have the little gore patch? I tried to contact Tesla and sent them the bulletin to see if it’s a valid fix or maybe it’s out of date? Just trying to understand why they sent mobile but then the guy took one look and left. They won’t respond to my emails and I can’t get...

No sorry I just came across that when searching for this specific problem.

I read somewhere as they added functionality with the firmware updates they are much more sensitive and it's crucial they have unobstructed view. Early on they just didn't throw the error or disable functionality.

I removed the glass last night it comes of easily. A small panel unsnaps revealing two bolts remove them and it comes right off. The only access to the glass is through the hole when you remove the camera. I found Tesla service bulletin SB-20-12-002, not sure how to upload a PDF but I'll...