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Hey at least that was using a modem. Imagine transferring your weekly hospital payroll data over a 300 baud acoustic coupler to the bank. Often multiple tries.

Level 3 has been my priority for a long time and if you review my posts you'd see I started bringing that up a lot earlier then most and got critrized for that. Reference to robo taxi here is the obvious focus Tesla will have on FSD deficiencies that affect Robotaxi completing drives. Clearly...

Lots of speculation on when v12.4 is released but is there any confirmation that the majority or even a significant number of Tesla employees have v12.4? I would think that would come first.

I'd prefer to wait until most everyone has v12.4, see what the feedback is and then judge whether Elon's statement is bunk.

Good example of hand gestures today. Lights at intersection were off. Police office was in the middle of the intersection directing traffic with gestures. FSD totally bailed. No wheel of death, FSD just disabled on it's own. I suspect it saw a stationery pedestrian and didn't know what to...

I also do this. Mostly at intersections where FSD is too far from the intersection and I either want FSD to move closer or in some cases to get FSD to make the turn if it looks like it's going to take 10+ seconds to decide. For example with foliage in the way. How long you apply the...

Please start with this intersection :) You may need a shovel too! Oh and I'll provide the beer

Like @Izolman I also live in Mass and the foliage delay he refers to at Stop signs is real since the car takes an extra 2-4 seconds to creep because of the foliage. Once I can see potential cross traffic leaning forward the car always creeps another 2-3 feet for the B-pillar camera before...

Any chance you had the average setting on when on the highway? I've found assertive stays in the passing lane but average will usually move over if there is a car behind me. The setting will change when you right click on the scroll wheel if you're in chill or average. It will move one...

Thank you.

I've seen this comment before but don't recall seeing any post where Elon specifically said the shimmy/wobble would be fixed in v12.4. Do you have a link to his post?

You are right about the mandate. Occasionally they now use a "traffic control officer" in the next town but they still use hand gestures. I don't recall where I saw this but adding support for hand gestures may be in v12.5.

Hand gestures- I have this pretty much every day. Sometimes multiple times with police and road crews directing traffic for road work. Portable Go/Stop signs are never used. Probably the highest percentage of my disengagements. Just came back from the grocery store where they are repaving...

While we wait for v12.4 my major list of improvements that get FSD "closer" to unsupervised. These represent almost all my disengagements and are the most likely IMO to prevent FSD from reaching it's destination. The first five could easily result in moving violations so Tesla should focus on...

This thread was just a bit tired with everyone waiting for v12.4 videos to drop. Aren't you glad I brought up the B-pillar camera issue so we'd have something different to discuss :). In a few days (hopefully) it will be v12.4 all the time!

Agree 100%. I've also suggested this. Even if you have to modify the window area it would be a significant improvement and add safety to FSD.

Disagree, since where I live we have lots of low visibility intersections which FSD has real problems with. As noted in my earlier post FSD no longer turns right when I want to leave my neighborhood with the foliage out so I have to manually make the turn which is ridiculous. The excuse...

Just an FYI. When your car is in park select the service screen and scroll down to view cameras. You can then view what each camera sees. It's very interesting to see their field of view. In the picture I posted previously since I knew the car wouldn't move and there was nobody behind me I...

I rest one elbow either on the door rest or center console and apply a tiny amount of touque on the wheel letting the wheel slide thru my hand when FSD turns the wheel. I've been doing this for years and it's now muscle memory. Since I wear prescription sun glasses except at night nags are a...

Change of pace from v12.4. With the foliage now fully out here is an example of an intersection where FSD often doesn't turn right. FSD will only turn when I press the accelerator. The picture is from the left B-pillar and the blue circle represents where the foliage blocks the camera's view...

Fun watching the naysayers and proponents banter back and forth on this thread. Many with mostly emotional arguments. My take is just to wait and see how CT sales go for the next year compared to the other EV truck offerings.

Your reply just confirmed that judging v12.4 on one video was silly but not surprising.

To judge v12.4 after 1 video is silly. You should know better. We have no idea how reliable the post is to begin with and we have no idea if the version is one the public will even see. Patience Grasshopper.

Maybe I didn't read your post accurately but no reason to think V12 for the highway won't be a lot better than v11 and AP. When v11 came out there were lots of posts predicting regressions and while there were a few by and large the common feedback was how much improved the v11 highway stack...

If interested here is Joe's last update on March 11th. very informative.

Wheel of Death- aka Water Splash Wheel of Death Yesterday I was driving in the rain on a secondary road going about 40mph. A truck going in the opposite direction sent a huge amount of water completely covering the entire windshield. I cannot recall ever having so much water dumped on my...

@AlanSubie4Life Since your reply was "Yes" without any clarification I'll take that response to mean you agree Chuck's UPL is not a simple turn which explains why Tesla is having a hard time getting FSD to work. Glad to see we finally agree :)

Maybe because it's a challenging intersection and not a simple turn. Can you think of another reason why Tesla is having so much difficulty with this UPL?

Today I did 2 trips and drove 175 miles on a busy greater Boston highway. Not once did FSD brake too hard and phantom brakes are a distant memory. Now I do have complaints with how V11 performs on the highway and really looking forward to v12.5 it's just none of my issues deal with braking...

Nope, Omar appears to be back in Elon's good graces. After all it was Elon who responded with "btw" when he didn't have too and gave his first insight into versions v12.4/5. Omar is just telling like it is. Regular customers won't see v12.4 as quickly as previous v12.3 point releases. No...

Any chance you've gotten the new maps? NA-2024.8-14924

How in the world do you know Elon doesn't get it?

With the expectation set by Elon that miles per "intervention" would improve significantly I could care less about the what's listed above in the release notes since none of these provide any insight on how FSD will actually improve driving. Let's hope v12.4 is noticeably better.

Anyone received updated maps for NA?

Time to nag everyone on this thread! Stop discussing nags until we see how 12.4 actually works. I know, not a chance that happens but you can't yell at me for trying!

Dart board by a Tesla employee wearing dark sunglasses :)

Agree.

Good chance not much help based on the sunglasses requirement. Of course Elon never actually said nags were going away. The Tesla community just jumped to a lot of conclusions based on one word replies by Elon. That happens a lot. We'll just have to see how the new monitoring system has...

Just to clarify there is no U-turn on this road. It's simply a 2 lane secondary road. FSD just stops in the lane I'm in and sits there forever. I've been told 5 years ago the road was closed for bridge construction but the road has been open for years. If you drive the road from the other...

Has anyone had a mapped route where FSD turns onto a state road, goes .1 tenth of mile and simply stops and stays in the middle of the lane where the route indicates a U-turn? Then displays a message the maneuver isn't supported? The car won't do anything but block the lane. Been doing this...

v12.3.6 is working pretty well but the one area that is a bit worse now has nothing to do with the version. Now that foliage is fully out at a lot of the low visibility intersections I have require additional creep time. Probably an additional 2-3 seconds since FSD has to creep further so the...

Exactly. HW4 is running in HW3 simulation mode so until that changes any comparisions of HW3 vs. HW4 is incomplete.

Agree. Meaningless is being kind.

Your continued insistence that Chuck's UPL is a simple turn has grown tiresome. I'm going to refrain from any further posts on this subject. Glad to see you're a minority of 1.

Until someone in the crossing traffic coming from the right slows and stops in the median blocking FSD's path to turn left. This has happened on several of Chuck's efforts so he had to keep waiting and waiting until that car could finally go and cross in front of him making a left. Oh I...

Simple turns are not having to cross traffic, especially high speed traffic going in both directions. Chuck's turn is not simple but any measure.

That wasn't the question though. Do you consider Chuck's UPL a simple turn?

Who else agrees with @AlanSubie4Life that Chuck's turn is simple for a human?

Set up a YouTube account which is easy, upload the video their then create a link here. Voila!