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That quote wasn’t from me was it? I never said you don’t pay depreciation on a lease. I said that it is irrelevant how much the car is actually worth after a few years because they automatically take it back without even giving you the opportunity to buy it. Leasing is simply a bet on...

You are paying depreciation on a loan too. You are just hoping you are paying more principal than the depreciation after a few years of making payments. Without the tax credit that is entirely unlikely with a loan on this car.

But the lease ALWAYS has you paying less each month. There is absolutely zero chance this car is going to be worth more than I owe in two years when I don’t get the tax credit with a purchase. Yes, you pay depreciation each month with a lease but with the tax credit discount you will always pay...

So it appears all of these first cars have white seats. What happens if you ordered white seats but don’t get in the first batch of cars? Are they going to run out of white seats quickly and then delay the rest of the orders with white seats?

If I was Tesla and I had to decide who gets a car right away I would look at what city or area has the most number of orders for a configuration that I was making first. For instance if I had 6 orders for Red cars with white interiors all going to SoCal then I would put the first 6 on a truck...

A lease makes all of this irrelevant.

I absolutely think the North American car will be way better with an optimized battery. However, I am not so sure about the MIC car now. I still predict that the North American car will run 2.95 seconds for a true 0-60 mph without subtracting rollout and this 0-40 mph time backs that up...

Yes, definitely we should take that run for what it is. However, I also want to stress that the 0-40 mph was fantastic for that run. That is a noticeable difference in acceleration under 40 mph. What this shows is that we really need to preheat the battery still. That should be the first thing...

0-40 mph is way better than the old car by a lot. You have to remove over 200 lbs from the old car to match that time. 40-60 mph with this cold battery in the new LG car is way worse than the old US Panasonic cars with similar weight wheels.

Yes, you did the best you could with what you had and we all appreciate it. A cold battery will affect this new car tremendously. I checked for the absolute slowest run I have ever had and the 50-60 mph time you had exactly matched my 50-60 mph from that slow run. I had intentionally chilled...

I have the exact same time frame as you and my order number is very close to yours. We just have to be patient.

Thank you so much for this version. This tells us so much. Look at that 0-10 mph launch. .39 exactly matches my absolute best time with a fully preconditioned and gutted car. The test you did matches my best lightweight run all the way to 40 mph where the new car absolutely collapsed. It is...

Honestly, I really think the data you provided is highlighting the fact that the Panasonic car really is going to be significantly quicker especially with that new rear motor. The LG battery does appear to be a significant handicap.

Thank you. That is an excellent and well written review.

I agree that it was not necessarily a direct comparison. However, I am 200+ lbs and the part I am comparing is from 40 mph to 60+ mph. Traction is irrelevant then because torque is falling off by that point. The whole point of the new rear motor is that it allows you to hold max power much...

Thank you for all of this great data. We really appreciate you testing it. However, this really doesn’t look good at all. I put a Dragy result below from a car with just 18” wheels and no other weight reductions. Just look at the acceleration line for both cars. The new MIC car is falling off...

It is important to understand that Tesla claims 16% more max rear torque. That defines 0-40 mph and will be slightly quicker. Then they say 32% more max rear HP but this is at a vastly different speed. The old car hit max HP for a brief second at 55 mph. The new car hits it at 68 mph for the...

Max battery power of the current car is 436 KW(585 HP). 90% of 436 is 392.4 KW(526 HP). Those numbers all line up with expectations. There is a possibility that US based cars will hit 461 KW at the battery instead of the 436 KW of the old cars. Not sure if that is possible or not though.

Congrats! Did you switch from a RWD/LR to the Performance model?

My prediction is that the new car’s 1/4 mile times will look very similar to this.

Here are two Dragy screenshots showing the fastest and slowest you could go and run 0-60 mph in 2.9 seconds with rollout subtracted. The 100% stock Model 3 Performance did 0-60 mph in 3.23 seconds without subtracting rollout. There is no way the new car is only going to be .1 seconds quicker...

What does your current car run for 0-60 mph and 1/4 mile?

Congrats! So excited for everyone getting VINs now. As far as the lease goes, let’s just say I can’t get the tax credit without the lease. I ran the numbers and the depreciation would be too extreme for it to make sense to buy the car. However, I want to be clear that the lease numbers are...

If it hits 125 mph it will be well below 11.0.

It won’t even be close to that. 9 seconds perhaps.

Model 3 Performance still only has a rear permanent magnet motor. Model S LR has two permanent magnet motors. You can’t trap 130 mph in the 1/4 mile without both motors being permanent magnet motors. 125 mph is about all we can hope for in the Model 3 Performance.

I have to think that they have many thousands of Model 3 Performance orders already just in the US alone.

I am leasing as well so I really don't want to replace the ultra expensive tires or the wheels for that matter. For most of the time my stock wheels and tires will hang in my garage. Whenever, I have a track day coming up I will switch back to them and perhaps I will run them during the peak...

That's a good point that I hadn't thought of and HUGE CONGRATS on the weight loss. That is an incredible accomplishment.

I believe what he is talking about is like for like tires. For the level of grip the stock tires offer you probably can’t gain much range while keeping that same level of grip. What I am talking about is sacrificing some levels of grip but still getting WAY more Performance than the LR has but...

Congrats! I am definitely in the camp that those who ordered the LR and have waited all this time should get the Performance Model first. Can't wait to hear how much you like it.

I think there will be some LR buyers that simply assume the Performance Model is too expensive without ever really digging into the details. Resell values of the Highland LR cars will be positively abysmal.

If you sell the Performance wheels and tires you could easily buy an efficiency setup that would get you even more range than the LR(Performance has a bigger battery) and maybe only lose a tenth or two in acceleration.

There is one thing that is for sure with the 2024 Model 3 Performance, this isn’t a limited production car. It is absolutely apparent that this is going to be a relatively high volume car considering how incredibly quick it is. It makes no sense at all to get the LR right now if you can take...

I have a set of 20x9.0 +35 wheels in a square setup that if my math is correct will work perfectly as efficiency wheels on the new Model 3 Performance. Those wheels have 235/35/20 Hankook iON EVO AS tires on them.

I really haven’t tested Track Mode that often because I am more into Drag Racing. If you are driving on a road course aggressively it will heat up the battery fairly quickly and deplete the battery at the same time. That should happen reasonably quickly but I wouldn’t count on having strong...

I drove about 150 miles in an absolute flooding downpour at 70+ mph with the Hankook iON EVO AS tires. The efficiency dropped off dramatically from the standing water and higher speed but the tires seemed to handle the standing water quite well. I certainly would have slowed down if I still had...

You could probably cancel orders if you knew the full number and the person’s name.

“Negative Ghost Rider. Pattern is full.”

It’s still pretty interesting data. I like it.

Thank you very much for doing this. It is greatly appreciated.

It might if a shipment goes totally to Charlotte and then Raleigh has to wait for an entirely new shipment. Who knows? No telling how they distribute them.

It is very important to remember that the 32% increase in rear motor power happens at vastly different rpms. The old rear motor hit peak HP at about 40 mph. The new motor has been said to peak at 68 mph. That is a significant gap in speed. More HP at a significantly higher speed isn’t...

What time did you receive your confirmation email?

Are you taking delivery in Raleigh or Charlotte?

I have precisely the same as you but I am near Raleigh NC.

18” T Sportline wheels among other brands will definitely fit the old Model 3 Performance. However, I am not sure if they will fit the new Model 3 Performance. I will be able to test this when I get mine though. I don’t have 19s so I can’t test that. If 18s fit then those will typically be more...

Efficiency improves with wear. I have always got my worst efficiency with brand new tires.

Congrats! Location?

Huge congrats! That is awesome.