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I'm in Buffalo, so yeah.
Just across the lake but you guys get it a lot worse. I feel for ya.
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I'm in Buffalo, so yeah.
As a Miami-based D driver I confirm your view. Driving in the very heavy rainstorms the D does give much greater stability. My personal comparison is between my P85D and an 85 loaner, both of which I drive in the same rainstorm on I95 between Miami and West Palm Beach. Until then I really did not appreciate how much more stable the Teska D's are. BTW, both cars had 19" Michelin's with plenty of tread.Have you driven an AWD car in an Orlando rain storm? Try it. The added grip will make you ignore FWD and curse RWD. Not even considering the added power of a dual motor.
Have you driven an AWD car in an Orlando rain storm? Try it. The added grip will make you ignore FWD and curse RWD. Not even considering the added power of a dual motor.
I accidentally voted AWD, since that is what I plan to get, but I think Elon has already said base version will be RWD, so that is what I expect. [Mods: If possible, you can change my vote to RWD.]
Elon Musk already announced, around the middle of 2015, that the base Model ≡ would be rear wheel drive.
Reeler: No. There will never be a Front Wheel Drive version of Model ≡. With electric drive you gain exactly ZERO of the advantages that FWD offers an ICE.
Not sure why everyone seems to be hung up on the 3 being "economy". Yes, I get that they're naturally competing with the Bolt. But EM has already said to think of it more as a 3-series/A4 competitor.
The 3 series is RWD, the A4 in its most basic form is FWD.
So who knows what Tesla is going to do here.............
I know he has said it would be single-motor/2WD in base version, and I really do think it will be RWD, but do you have a source that he actually have said it will be RWD?
Thank you it's freaking annoying people calling the car economy with no basis at ALL... Mass Market does not mean economy.. Mass Market means the Model 3 will be in the most popular luxury segment which includes, C Class, A4, 3 Series, 4 Series, Q50 and so on where the most cars are sold.. This is the largest luxury market by far...
<--- Not everyone
Touche....fair enough.
But....while not every person on this board who owns an S/X has called the 3 an econobox, everyone who has owns an S or an X, or more than one, according to their signatures.
Again, not everyone (I do see what you mean, and I'm just teasing. there are a handful of folks lately who own Model S's/X's who portray an elitist attitude)
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Looks like he only said 2WD on the shareholders call, so I misremembered. I highly expect RWD, as you say, but we should find out on the 31st.
:wink: I just find it funny that the ones who are doing it don't even realize they are contradicting themselves.......
O crap... let me go look through my posts now
A large majority of entry level luxury sedan buyers will never see those conditions or will see them so rarely it does not matter. While torque steer can happen in all road conditions.In the snow, dirt, or sand, a FWD is a better engineering design than RWD.
The same goes for those who have not tried a modern RWD EV (like the S). I have yet to seen any complaints about its snow performance despite being a RWD car. This had been argued ad infinitum: an RWD EV eliminates most of the advantages of FWD in poor road conditions because of a balanced weight bias (more weight over rear wheels), immediate and precise torque adjustment, and modern traction/stability control. At any rate, having the right tires is far more important than the drive wheel.Those who think there is torque steer and massive understeer on modern FWD cars need to actually drive one.