Stoneymonster
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It's good for Tesla though and it's good that's it's pushing forward the EV movement in general.
But for me...damn...huge early adopter regret.
This is one big reason I've decided to lease from now on.
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It's good for Tesla though and it's good that's it's pushing forward the EV movement in general.
But for me...damn...huge early adopter regret.
The 85D puts a huge damper on P85 resale value. I can configure a brand new 85D with all the same things my Dec 2012 P85 has and it costs pretty much the same. Except the new 85D is dual motor, has auto pilot potential, etc. And the 85D is just as fast 0-60 and probably faster in the 0-30 due to AWD.
I have a huge, huge level of regret purchasing when I did. I knew there'd be changes, but this is far beyond what Elon/Tesla had mentioned back when they were asked about potential changes in the future. Specifically, he said they didn't expect much significant change until a mid-model refresh a few years down the line. If I'd had any inkling of the massive level of changes that'd be put into place 2 years later, I'd have waited (and been a far richer man since I wouldn't have cached out stock to pay for my car....).
People sometimes analogize the pace of improvement by referencing something like iPhones, but I could afford to buy a new phone every couple years. Tesla is a once in a lifetime splurge for someone at my income level, a car I'd planned on having 15-20 years. Even just having used Adaptive Cruise Control on a loaner...damn, I'd happily have driven my crappy old ICE for 2 more years to have 15 years with a car with the autopilot sensors. It hurts knowing I missed my one shot.
It's good for Tesla though and it's good that's it's pushing forward the EV movement in general.
But for me...damn...huge early adopter regret.
The new 6.2 minor update adds a sport mode button for acceleration. I will repeat the API measurement with it enabled.
The 85D puts a huge damper on P85 resale value. I can configure a brand new 85D with all the same things my Dec 2012 P85 has and it costs pretty much the same. Except the new 85D is dual motor, has auto pilot potential, etc. And the 85D is just as fast 0-60 and probably faster in the 0-30 due to AWD.
I have a huge, huge level of regret purchasing when I did. I knew there'd be changes, but this is far beyond what Elon/Tesla had mentioned back when they were asked about potential changes in the future. Specifically, he said they didn't expect much significant change until a mid-model refresh a few years down the line. If I'd had any inkling of the massive level of changes that'd be put into place 2 years later, I'd have waited (and been a far richer man since I wouldn't have cached out stock to pay for my car....).
People sometimes analogize the pace of improvement by referencing something like iPhones, but I could afford to buy a new phone every couple years. Tesla is a once in a lifetime splurge for someone at my income level, a car I'd planned on having 15-20 years. Even just having used Adaptive Cruise Control on a loaner...damn, I'd happily have driven my crappy old ICE for 2 more years to have 15 years with a car with the autopilot sensors. It hurts knowing I missed my one shot.
It's good for Tesla though and it's good that's it's pushing forward the EV movement in general.
But for me...damn...huge early adopter regret.
Just saw the update notice myself. Any chance of posting the release notes?
, I am 100% sure there is no real update coming for the 85D (even if TM says there is) and that it has always been 4.4sec fast (as has been documented weeks ago). Anything new felt will be placebo effect of an upgrade. I think TM is just getting out of their own way in regards to underrating the 85D originally, thinking it was smart product placement and/or to encourage P85D sales initially.
They look the same as the last 6.2 release to me.
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I agreed with you until this morning.
Somebody call the doctor. The grin on my face has crossed over to painful...Definitely not a placebo effect. New run today in sport most: peak power draw 371kW (vs. 323 on Wednesday). It was honestly slightly terrifying as the driver.
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^ what model is that?
Somebody call the doctor. The grin on my face has crossed over to painful...
Sorry, but I had to ask
370KW = 495hp
So how have you got 495hp out of 2x 221hp = 422hp motors that are supposedly only rated at 211hp in the S85D.
Not only that, you are well under 4secs for the 0-60 from your chart.
Now I am really confused (and P85D owners going to be pretty pissed too)
Probably need to figure in inefficiencies in the electrical power draw to mechanical energy conversions. I trust the TM spec of 422 hp as accounting for all of that and a .85 multiplier for that conversion seems pretty reasonable to this mechanical engineer....Sorry, but I had to ask
370KW = 495hp
So how have you got 495hp out of 2x 221hp = 422hp motors that are supposedly only rated at 211hp in the S85D.
Not only that, you are well under 4secs for the 0-60 from your chart.
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