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The New RAV4 EV
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Same technology <> same battery pack. I also was told by a Tesla employee that the RAV4 drivetrain had been dumbed-down intentionally to keep it a full notch below Tesla's own vehicles.
Rav4 EV (to be merged)
I posted this in the RAV 4 EV thread but I think this thread gets more traffic so I'll post it here too:
Why does the RAV 4 EV only get 100 miles of range if they're using the same motor and battery as Tesla? I don't get how they're selling a small SUV for the same price as a Model S, and it still has less range.
I posted this in the RAV 4 EV thread but I think this thread gets more traffic so I'll post it here too:
Why does the RAV 4 EV only get 100 miles of range if they're using the same motor and battery as Tesla? I don't get how they're selling a small SUV for the same price as a Model S, and it still has less range.
Toyota's "100 mile" range is supposedly a real-world range - comparable to the EPA range number. Range at a constant 55 mph will probably be around 135 miles (compare to Tesla Model S 40 kWh 160 miles). I'd bet that most of this range hit when comparing the two cars is due to the much larger drag coefficient of the RAV4-EV.
True, and it is likely that the 160 mile range Model S will get an EPA range of around 112 miles.
Larry
CyberDutchie
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Image: 2012 Toyota RAV4 EV, size: 720 x 480, type: gif, posted on: May 7, 2012, 12:07 pm - Green Car Reports
Yikes, what is all that stuff under the hood? Looks more like a regular car...
Yikes, what is all that stuff under the hood? Looks more like a regular car...
strider
Active Member
Yeah, how many different fluids do they need? Coolant and windshield washer... what are the other 2?
And if there was any doubt about EVs and separate 12V batteries....
Yes, unlike the LEAF and Volt who may actually be losing money on each car for now, it would seem that Toyota is taking a very conservative approach with their high MSRP and for now are only looking to satisfy California emission regulation rather than aggressively market this EV. From the John Voelcker Green Cars Report reference earlier:
This is not unexpected, but it is nevertheless disappointing.
Larry
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Seems like a poor choice on the price from a marketing perspective. If they had picked $47,499 they could have hit a $39,999 after rebate price. But I guess at less than 1000 units a year they aren't really trying....
JRP3
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Brake fluid is one, not sure what the fourth would be. Could be power steering fluid I suppose. I'm also not sure why they are using a full sized 12V battery, unless it's to keep extra reserve capacity to power the BMS in sleep mode or something.
Norbert
TSLA will win
I'm hoping that after they get the low hanging fruit with Californian early adopters, that after testing the market they will modify their approach, increase volume, lower the price and get a bit more creative in marketing. I keep thinking about that $billion potential deal Elon aluded to after the initial $100 million order was announced.
Larry
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shark2k
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Don't know if you are being sarcastic or not (I'm assuming no because no smiley), but I would think they mean something like Eco mode and regular mode or something like that. Similar to a BMW having a sport mode and eco mode type thing.
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JRP3
Hyperactive Member
The S is not the same price, the base S is $10K more than the RAV. Battery and motor technology can not make a less efficient vehicle more efficient. The RAV has a larger cdA so it won't go as far with the same pack, and we don't actually know how large the RAV pack is.
JRP3
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