jhm
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Damn you. My frickin ice pick don't need no gad damn LIDAR.Yup, just make sure you use Lidar to locate the temporal lobe. Otherwise, you might end up like this guy:
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Dan Detweiler
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An ice pick to the brain would, in and of itself, be considered an edge case, so...yeah...there's that.
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Ah think they were saying there were an alarming number of Tesla battery fires not that there were an alarming number of Teslas manufactured.
But I guess there were an alarming number of Tesla cars built and sold... If you are a bear.
Just a slight OT correction: Apple actually owns all the manufacturing equipment for its products within Foxconn factories (Foxconn essentially just owns the building and manages the labour force.) Foxconn though does gain manufacturing experience though which they can use to some extent for other customers. A better example would be TSMC which owns the manufacturing capacity for Apples A-series chips, and while they don’t have access to Apple IP, they can use those same manufacturing lines to achieve economies of scale to serve other customers.
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ALL LIDAR, Waymo etc. posts WILL BE wrapped up by midday afternoon Sunday (irrespective of whatever time zone/daylight saving or not you may be in).
Any and all carryover peeping through to trading hour activity will be run over. Multiple times.
ALL LIDAR, Waymo etc. posts WILL BE wrapped up by midday afternoon Sunday (irrespective of whatever time zone/daylight saving or not you may be in).
Any and all carryover peeping through to trading hour activity will be run over. Multiple times.
I worked for a wire & cable manufacture for 16 years. Thefts usually came from the engineering dept, and from maintenance supervisors. Some were caught, but charges were never filed. Usually they were told to just hit the road. If private investigators and had solid evidence, restitution would occur. Biggest theft was a maintenance superintendent stealing two copper rod extruding machines worth 250k each. They were supposed to be shipped to a storage facility. Private detective had enough evidence to implicate the super. Company got those machines back, and no charges were filed.
Yes. Which makes it questionable if Elon is right.
Here is MobilEye's EyeQ5 for example. 24 trillion operations per second
This chip is sitting in the rearview mirror, serving for the 3 forward looking cameras freeing up capacity for the main computer. Low power and doesn't need massive cooling.
Amnon Shashua thinks this will be enough for good weather driving (they have higher resolution cameras than Tesla) and he is planning to add lidar based on the test results to cover the corner cases.
Carl Raymond
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If you are going to question it, you have to find fault in the simple logic:
To solve FSD, you have to solve for vision.
If you solve for vision, lidar is redundant.
Posts about how good lidar is are irrelevant. To make a case for lidar you have to find something that lidar is *required* for that vision/radar/ultrasonics cannot do.
The most effective engineering solution is not necessarily the most popular one.
The vehicle will need to understand its environment and be able to respond to numerous situations that may be impossible to predict or code for in advance . So the specifics of the imaging system are less important than the speed and depth of the data processing behind it.
So it seems to me that Tesla is working towards the most capable system. Their pace of progress is impressive. I wouldn’t bet against them
If you solve vision why do you need radar?
Carl Raymond
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Radar has capabilities that go beyond vision, like see ahead of the car ahead. Lidar, says Musk, ultimately adds nothing.
This is an argumentum ad populum fallacy. Most others doing it a different way says absolutely nothing about the efficacy of Tesla’s methodology.
Vision can’t see through fog or around objects, while radar can.
You mean like landing a rocket on a boat in the middle of the ocean which everyone thought was crazy?
Yeah, subsidizing ICEs with EV credits for Tesla skateboard is wicked.
But you heard Elon - it would be in line with Tesla mission. I don't like it very much either. Maybe he can figure something out that is expensive enough for OEMs to encourage them to start moving on their own and not depend on status quo.
Buckminster
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So LA Autoshow starts 22 Nov. Optimal date to release Pickup would therefore be ~20/11. 2 weeks notice to the launch party - invites go out ~6th Nov. Therefore Elon will be back on Twitter in 72 hours and the world will get back to normal.
I have plenty of "one more thing" ideas. My favourite being a Model 2 rolling off the back. <1% chance. I will spare you from the other ideas as they mostly involve multitudinous LIDAR up the wazoo.
I have plenty of "one more thing" ideas. My favourite being a Model 2 rolling off the back. <1% chance. I will spare you from the other ideas as they mostly involve multitudinous LIDAR up the wazoo.
StealthP3D
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Oh, come on. Everyone knows that was just some tricky video editing. Pretty good video editing but it never happened. The evidence is obvious:
1) The images had a "fakery" quality to them. Obviously photoshopped.
2) When two rockets landed, they were too well synchronized. Real rockets wouldn't do it like that. Obviously!
3) No other space companies (including NASA) do it that way. That's the dead giveaway it's fake.
StealthP3D
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Yeah, kinda like the people who focus on the rare allergic reaction to a vaccination that saves millions of lives. There's a name for people like that:
Wackos.
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