When I lived in LA, it was fairly frequent that I would be doing 90 on the 405, and still getting passed by minivans, lol...Personally I do use the 0-60 < 4s quite frequently, and often will cruise around 100 mph during my commute.
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When I lived in LA, it was fairly frequent that I would be doing 90 on the 405, and still getting passed by minivans, lol...Personally I do use the 0-60 < 4s quite frequently, and often will cruise around 100 mph during my commute.
Exactly. When I was originally looking at the Y, the criteria for both the wife and I, was performance #1, and utility #2, with fuel economy being a nice perk. The prius was never on the radar. This means the top contenders were the Acura MDX Sport Hybrid and BMW X5.I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. Very few people are going to cross shop a model y and a Prius. Just different classes of car altogether. Most people are going to be looking at other luxury CUVs (I.e BMW X3, audi q4, etc), and some of those people will decide it makes more sense to get the MY.
I with you on this one. I also see huge mark ups in KY/ OH area. But unfortunately that is supply/demand of the current market. I am curious to see how it plays out on the long run for KIA/Hyundai dealers.I'm sick off all these Hyundai and KIA dealerships here in S. Cal wanting to charge me anywhere from $4,000 - $15,000 worth of add-ons and markups for the Ioniq 5 and EV6. I already have a MY LR ordered, with EDD of between Oct. - Jan 2023. If once the hype dies down a bit for the Ioniq 5 and the EV6, and I can find one at MSRP before my LR MY arrives, I'll release the VIN, and get one of the Korean cars instead.
There isn't a single auto manufacturer that prefers to have Dealers instead of selling the cars themselves. Dealers exist because laws keep them there, and any attempts to change such laws get heavily contested by Dealer lobbyists, who are very wealthy and have lots of $$$ to throw into the courts. There's still quite a few states that ban Tesla direct sales (One of which even has a Tesla factory in it!)I heard some rumors that Ford is thinking to adapt Tesla's approach of online only sales for EVs and cut out dealer-middle man.
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Must be Cali thing I5 at msrp isn't that hard in NJ. Anyways I'd wait 23 I5 to come out, it's supposed to have digital rearview mirror to compensate for lack of rear wiper.I with you on this one. I also see huge mark ups in KY/ OH area. But unfortunately that is supply/demand of the current market. I am curious to see how it plays out on the long run for KIA/Hyundai dealers.
I heard some rumors that Ford is thinking to adapt Tesla's approach of online only sales for EVs and cut out dealer-middle man.
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Lowering the price creates more customers.... how?
Your points are spot on, in a situation where they can make more than they sell. But in the current market, they sell as many as they make at the higher price.Just spit balling here...
Being able to buy a Tesla at $52k vs another EV at $52k would get my attention...No? Given Tesla's reputation?
ALSO...
The Austin MY is a new model config, not another version of the MYLR.
New Model = New Customers
In fairness, we don't actually know with the MYSR just yet. I think it's likely that they sell out, but at only a $3k difference, I can see a large chunk opting for the MYLR. If that's the case, perhaps a price drop to move the Austin units would be warranted.Your points are spot on, in a situation where they can make more than they sell. But in the current market, they sell as many as they make at the higher price.
True. I don't think that they are going to make a lot of them at first, so I'd be surprised if they don't sell out immediately. If not to general users, then to all of the people who have been crazy to get a Texas car, or one with the structural battery (even if it isn't an improvement for them). But if they don't, sure. Lower the price.In fairness, we don't actually know with the MYSR just yet. I think it's likely that they sell out, but at only a $3k difference, I can see a large chunk opting for the MYLR. If that's the case, perhaps a price drop to move the Austin units would be warranted.
I have an EV rate with PG&E at $0.21 per kWh. It is from 11PM until 2PM. I agree it is going up. I remember off peak rates of $0.13 per kWh.California none peek hours is about .35 and will definitely be more each year..
Just spit balling here...
Being able to buy a Tesla at $52k vs another EV at $52k would get my attention...No? Given Tesla's reputation?
ALSO...
The Austin MY is a new model config, not another version of the MYLR.
New Model = New Customers
California resident here (Bay Area). My residential rate is 0.13/kWh. No difference between peak and off peak.People need to seriously consider how much they will be paying per kWh at home.. California none peek hours is about .35 and will definitely be more each year..
California resident here (Bay Area). My residential rate is 0.13/kWh. No difference between peak and off peak.
$90 to fill up my Outback yesterday, for about 400 miles range. It costs me about $13 for the same range charging at home. And I get to charge for free at work, so even better.Yeah - rates vary widely depending on provider, plan and region.
But even at $0.35/KHW that's functionally equal to around $2 for gas. Can you imagine anyone complaining and warning that "gas is at $2 and it's gonna go up" against today's market?
California resident here (Bay Area). My residential rate is 0.13/kWh. No difference between peak and off peak.
I get .04 here in Arizona. Why is Californias rate so much higher? Is it taxed higher or do the electric companies just have a monopoly?
In fairness, we don't actually know with the MYSR just yet. I think it's likely that they sell out, but at only a $3k difference, I can see a large chunk opting for the MYLR. If that's the case, perhaps a price drop to move the Austin units would be warranted.
I was going to say the same thing. One of my good friends lives in SJ, and he got bumped up a tier when he got a Tesla, so his rates look like yours... He ended up getting solar as well.How u get 0.13? what part of Bay Area u from if u don’t mind sharing.
I’m from south SF and pge charging me 0.38 ish off peak and peak. I’m have CARE discount so they’re charging me 0.27 ish for off peak and peak.
Even for their EV rate off peak, it’s around 0.24. Peak is 0.58!
I also have solar now so those are the rate if my panel don’t produce enough for my daily use.