idk about cool, whenever I've been there it's been mostly s and x models, which often have free sc.
Free is a problem forsure and a pretty shitty business model to boot.
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idk about cool, whenever I've been there it's been mostly s and x models, which often have free sc.
Drive around Seattle. A substantial number of those multi-family dwellings only have street parking. Also I can't even convince my landlord to take digital payments let alone invest in chargers (if there was even a single dedicated parking space for my 11 unit building).
haha... fanboy...
SC is not and will not be the go to source for charging...
The issue is that none of you are pushing or pressuring Multi-family property owners to provide access to charging for renters and condo owners who represent 36% of 172,000,000 households in the USA.
Instead you're happily pedaling the current narrative that DC Fast charging is the solution when the solution is clearly the rapid expansion of Level 2 charging on a backbone that can meet current demands now and is flexible/scalable enough to meet future demand.
The narrative will change of the next 24 months, I advise that you don't get caught in the wake, as you're drinking the cool-aid versus thinking objectively.
#chargeon
Not that off topic. The question is whether Bothell is for people traveling through, or residents.
Tesla has huge incentives to roll out infrastructure in order to sell cars. Property owners have huge incentives to minimize costs and maintenance. Of those two, I think superchargers are going to address multi family home residents first. It's similar to Fiber Internet vs LTE. LTE won. Fiber to every building was a huge hassle. It was much easier/cheaper to put up a handful of towers nearby and service hundreds of structures with a single, centrally maintained tower.
I think 30kw chargers though are the sweet spot. I would rather see Tesla roll out 24 stall / 30kw than 12 stall 75kw. I'm not seeing L2 chargers being well received or maintained. I found a street charger in Bellevue in front of The Landing. It didn't work. That's my experience with public L2 chargers. They tend to be installed to check an amenity list and then there is no incentive to fix it when it breaks because it's achieved its PR/Marketing needs. I think Tesla is rolling out these east-side Superchargers first and foremost for residents not travelers.
haha... fanboy...
SC is not and will not be the go to source for charging...
The issue is that none of you are pushing or pressuring Multi-family property owners to provide access to charging for renters and condo owners who represent 36% of 172,000,000 households in the USA.
Instead you're happily pedaling the current narrative that DC Fast charging is the solution when the solution is clearly the rapid expansion of Level 2 charging on a backbone that can meet current demands now and is flexible/scalable enough to meet future demand.
The narrative will change of the next 24 months, I advise that you don't get caught in the wake, as you're drinking the cool-aid versus thinking objectively.
#chargeon
dude, your views of the world are pretty simplistic. Why do you care what people decide to do with their car, their living situation, and their choice of charging? You obviously have a home charger, good for you, some of us don't. I bought this car for auto drive, not cause it was electric, and I like where I live, I just don't happen to have access to home charging. There can be both solutions, the world is complicated, enjoy your slice of it and let other enjoy theirsYup, so ask your if "I live and work in highly densified urban area with no access to parking should you even own a car?". Understandable, if that is your current living situation but you can choose both where you live and what you drive. We're way off topic here... haha...
Well you seem to read an awful lot into a simple answer to a simple question. I wasn't "pedaling" any narrative whatsoever, though it appears that you clearly are.
I think with existing construction it's going to be a hard battle. I doubt many business owners will be happy taking on tens of thousands of dollars worth of work. Even a major project like resurfacing a parking lot wouldn't really be something that EV stations could be added on to since there isn't a lot of digging that takes place. I absolutely think right now all new construction should be made to run conduit to 20% or 30% of the spaces they build. Even if wire isn't run and EV hardware installed, a HUGE cost will be avoided and other costs will be minimal down the road, potentially something a home owner would invest in (if a condo).
Not that off topic. The question is whether Bothell is for people traveling through, or residents.
Tesla has huge incentives to roll out infrastructure in order to sell cars. Property owners have huge incentives to minimize costs and maintenance. Of those two, I think superchargers are going to address multi family home residents first. It's similar to Fiber Internet vs LTE. LTE won. Fiber to every building was a huge hassle. It was much easier/cheaper to put up a handful of towers nearby and service hundreds of structures with a single, centrally maintained tower.
I think 30kw chargers though are the sweet spot. I would rather see Tesla roll out 24 stall / 30kw than 12 stall 75kw. I'm not seeing L2 chargers being well received or maintained. I found a street charger in Bellevue in front of The Landing. It didn't work. That's my experience with public L2 chargers. They tend to be installed to check an amenity list and then there is no incentive to fix it when it breaks because it's achieved its PR/Marketing needs. I think Tesla is rolling out these east-side Superchargers first and foremost for residents not travelers.
Free is a problem forsure and a pretty shitty business model to boot.
dude, your views of the world are pretty simplistic. Why do you care what people decide to do with their car, their living situation, and their choice of charging? You obviously have a home charger, good for you, some of us don't. I bought this car for auto drive, not cause it was electric, and I like where I live, I just don't happen to have access to home charging. There can be both solutions, the world is complicated, enjoy your slice of it and let other enjoy theirs
@acarney You're spot on. The solution is infrastructure that supports any charging level, provides flexibility and scalability for all property types. It is coming to market in 2020. This will be really slick for existing buildings with a shared garage or any type of parking garage assuming available power capacity. As far as getting buy-in from property owners, as long as they have a new revenue stream with little to no maintenance and minimum management requirement it is an easy pitch.
Washington has legistaion in place that requires electric vehicle changing infrastructure for all new development since 2012. See RCW 19.27.540: Electric vehicle infrastructure requirements.
“For occupancies classified as assembly, education, or mercantile, the requirements of this section apply only to employee parking spaces. The requirements of this section do not apply to occupancies classified as residential R-3, utility, or miscellaneous.”
That basically says ALL businesses only need to provide for employees, which I bet they can say is just a couple spaces behind the building or something. The only benefit seems to be for condos and apartment buildings...
I mean it’s a start, but pretty disappointing for the public as a whole...
Looks like they have excavated about 3 to 4 feet down along the foundation between the wall and transformer when I was by.
Great, maybe the new transformer is incoming soon...Just for the new PSE vault.
Great, maybe the new transformer is incoming soon...