That will be nice!!I’m not saying a mumbling word unless Tesla says go on FUSC for Q4 2021 deliveries.
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That will be nice!!I’m not saying a mumbling word unless Tesla says go on FUSC for Q4 2021 deliveries.
That might be their current policy, but there is no set limit to the delay in the older contracts that they are threating to cancel prior to getting a EDD/VIN. Under those old contracts once you get a EDD/VIN assigned the contract states that you have 3 months to take delivery before they will cancel your order.
Careful, you're going to upset The Delay Squad and get thumbs downed.I've bought 3 Teslas in as many years. In fact, in 2019, the period was knocked down to 7 days for a bit, except if you missed that, they just refunded your order fee. Now they keep it.
Then you shouldn’t have ordered….Hold was automatically removed last night and I got a VIN this morning and a text this evening to schedule delivery for my M3P. F**k me lol. Tesla sure seems to be moving quick for these old orders.
I don't want another car right just yet (was originally aiming to take delivery around February). I'm not going to take delivery, so I'll let you all know what happens next.
Nothing you've stated regarding Tesla's position or actions surprises me. All is expected, as they're apparently serious about getting their house back in order.I mean if you're going to double down hard on the terms of the purchase agreement, you should double check some of their wording that the 'lawyers' wrote. Tesla gave them an out on pretty much any of their contracts if they wanted to.
It's stated "We may also cancel your order and refund your Order Fee, Order Deposit and Transportation Fee if we discontinue a product, feature or option after the time you place your order or if we determine that you are acting in bad faith". The "acting in bad faith" is their cop-out, and I feel like its vaguely worded enough that they can use it to get out of any contract if they really wanted to (especially if someone like you or me has consistently pushed their order back). If they cancel your contract (if you indeed did put your vehicle back on hold after receiving the December 2nd e-mail telling you to not do that), I'm pretty sure that's a good enough indication for them to check off the box for acting in bad faith.
I was in the same boat as you, but decided to not gamble away the lower price of my vehicle for a potential rebate (that would literally equate to the cost of what I'm saving).
Furthermore, the guy who I talked to in person at the store today (same guy who I spoke to last week) gave me some more information about this program. If you were tagged in the December 2nd e-mail, it looks like the system will be doing periodic sweeps automatically throughout the system after this date. That is to say, if somebody took their order off hold and then put it back on hold again after December 2 in an attempt to dodge the first 'sweep' of cancellations this method wont work (because pretty much any sales advisor can put your order back on hold, and pretend to be blind to any consequences that might result from this). They pretty much plan to continue doing periodic checkups between now and the end of the year to see if the tagged accounts end up on hold at any point, and if they do, your order is toast.
Also, I should probably add I have no idea if you received the hard cancellation December 2 e-mail, or just one of the soft cancellations checking to see if you're still alive.
Free unlimited supercharging.FUSC ??
I don't get that appreviation
The only people in this thread I think you can legitimately describe as “mad” are the ones upset that their speculative scheme might not pan out.Don’t be mad that you didn’t think to lock in an order at a lower price and leverage existing strategies to try to save a buck.
As someone who hasn't played hold games (mainly because I didn't know it could be played since I was not on this forum before ordering), what I am super salty about is Tesla forcing vehicles on people who don't want it right now instead of just going through the non hold line and finding people who do. Why am I being pushed from December to next year to make room for people who don't really want the car in December?So many super salty people here. Don’t be mad that you didn’t think to lock in an order at a lower price and leverage existing strategies to try to save a buck. I see nothing wrong with this considering my SA told me back in March that I should lock in the price and he could hold my order for as long I needed to take delivery. I only wish I locked in March and not May to save $2k more. There are plenty of people who want their car now and either don’t care about the tax credit or aren’t knowledgeable about it. I understand people may be bitter about having to pay more for something than someone else but that’s how it works with many items you purchase including cars that you purchase from a dealer.
The same reason they’ve held $6-10,000 from multitudes of owners for what has essentially amounted to vaporware.As someone who hasn't played hold games (mainly because I didn't know it could be played since I was not on this forum before ordering), what I am super salty about is Tesla forcing vehicles on people who don't want it right now instead of just going through the non hold line and finding people who do. Why am I being pushed from December to next year to make room for people who don't really want the car in December?
And the reason being that the company always thinks from their perspective and never from the customer's?The same reason they’ve held $6-10,000 from multitudes of owners for what has essentially amounted to vaporware.
I think you are misreading “Unsympathetic” for pouring salt in people’s wounds.So many super salty people here. Don’t be mad that you didn’t think to lock in an order at a lower price and leverage existing strategies to try to save a buck. I see nothing wrong with this considering my SA told me back in March that I should lock in the price and he could hold my order for as long I needed to take delivery. I only wish I locked in March and not May to save $2k more. There are plenty of people who want their car now and either don’t care about the tax credit or aren’t knowledgeable about it. I understand people may be bitter about having to pay more for something than someone else but that’s how it works with many items you purchase including cars that you purchase from a dealer.
Mentioned this above. Unless you move the Delayers back in line where the people who are moving forward in line currently are, you screw over everyone in the middle as their EDD gets moved back.As someone who hasn't played hold games (mainly because I didn't know it could be played since I was not on this forum before ordering), what I am super salty about is Tesla forcing vehicles on people who don't want it right now instead of just going through the non hold line and finding people who do. Why am I being pushed from December to next year to make room for people who don't really want the car in December?
a problem caused by a few people
We are pretending that it’s reasonable for Tesla to cater to a those same few people so why not indulge all the way?Tesla has an 11 month customer backlog, lets not pretend like a handful of orders are creating any meaningful impact to the queue; they're not.
How is putting people on hold in front of the line fair to the people already in the line? Do people in a real line get to leave it and rejoin right in front?We are pretending that it’s reasonable for Tesla to cater to a those same few people so why not indulge all the way?
That’s ultimately the thing here. “Tesla” has no idea what anyone’s individual case is. They are setting and enforcing broad policies trying to do the most fair thing to the broadest number of people.
How is putting people on hold in front of the line fair to the people already in the line? Do people in a real line get to leave it and rejoin right in front?
This only makes sense when you see it from Tesla’s point of view. They want to get the pending orders with deepest discount from current price off their books either buy picking up (good) or getting cancelled (better). Fairness for customers don’t come into picture.
when does your hold date expire? Mine expires on the January 15th and just got the email about click "I'm Ready" before December 9th. I talked to a local SA and he recommended clicking "I'm Ready" on December 8th and he still estimated a Jan-Feb delivery date. Not sure if I trust that though.Yes, I received that same email.
I kept it simple and said "I plan to keep my order. Do not cancel it." They said "Okay" and my order (and hold date) remained unchanged.
The same reason they’ve held $6-10,000 from multitudes of owners for what has essentially amounted to vaporware.