They are lighter than even stock 20s, depending on tires. I was avg around 320-350wh per mile on my 20s, getting around 320-330 with these. Ride is smooth indeed and quiet. So yeah, they are lighter and much better, they are forged. drive 75-85 mph every day, 70 mile round trip, AC on, 4 people. Not sure where you getting your "placebo effect" statement, Please check numbers
I'm getting tons of questions everywhere I go
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