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I've asked him to do this test at lower SoC as well, as that is when it gets more noticeable, but he seemed reluctant.I see Bjorn Nyland has tested the 0-60 of the MYP. It’s running at 3.88s. Looking at US tests they are also 3.88-3.91s. Basically the same.
I have seen a combined motor output of 448 KW out of my 2022 Model 3 Performance. That 448 KW was combining the real-time front and rear motor power values and not from the “Battery Power” or “Max Discharge” value.I've asked him to do this test at lower SoC as well, as that is when it gets more noticeable, but he seemed reluctant.
I am getting my M3P 2022 with LG battery pack in August (received my VIN yesterday) then I can test it side by side with my 2022 Panasonic Performance.
His acceleration tests still show the main difference between the battery pack / BMS behavior:
Model Y Performance LG vs. Model 3 Performance Panasonic:
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Source MYP
- LG with high voltage drop, but high current. Absolute peak is around 415kW.
- Panasonic with low voltage drop, but lower current. Absolute peak is around 435-445kW.
- The additional power of the Panasonic is mostly sent to the front motor. (speed is not exactly the same).
- Both cars are 2022 models with 3D3 front motor and 3D6 rear motor.
Source M3P
I think it is worth that you do these measurements with Scan My Tesla (Android / Non-Beta) and log the peak values. To get to your reported power you would need higher Bat Current limits than we seem to get in Europe. At high SoC 1240'ish Amps seems to be the end. This current gets higher with low SoC to compensate for low voltage. Would be very interesting what kind of current limits your American car is allowed to pull.I have seen a combined motor output of 448 KW out of my 2022 Model 3 Performance. That 448 KW was combining the real-time front and rear motor power values and not from the “Battery Power” or “Max Discharge” value.
I saw a Max Discharge value of 462 KW this past weekend. However, the track had a delayed opening so I couldn’t run at that value. The most I have ever been able to run at is 459 KW for max discharge.
I was able to do 9 separate 1/4 mile runs in a row from 97% down to almost 80% this weekend. I did rolling dyno graphs for each run. Lots of great data there that I will do a video on.
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I only have Apple phones and ScanMyTesla doesn’t seem to work well with Apple. I can’t figure out how to adjust the fields with ScanMyTesla and my iPhone.I think it is worth that you do these measurements with Scan My Tesla (Android / Non-Beta) and log the peak values. To get to your reported power you would need higher Bat Current limits than we seem to get in Europe. At high SoC 1240'ish Amps seems to be the end. This current gets higher with low SoC to compensate for low voltage. Would be very interesting what kind of current limits your American car is allowed to pull.
Something like this:
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Yes, exactly. I use both S3XY Buttons and Scan My Tesla as part of a small project I call TeslatabThe S3XY buttons don’t report amps. I might ask them to try to add that. That would be useful information.
That looks really cool. Any way to get an English speaking version of that?Yes, exactly. I use both S3XY Buttons and Scan My Tesla as part of a small project I call Teslatab
It launches Scan My Tesla first, which then logs in the background and then launches S3XY buttons for its aesthetics and button feedback (chill/sport).
When I have the spare time I might write a small tutorial how to set it up. A friend of mine has designed the custom mount for the Samsung Galaxy Tab A7 Lite, but he might ship internationally too. I will have to ask him.That looks really cool. Any way to get an English speaking version of that?
Despite the difference in battery output the acceleration is not impacted. Lower SoC will be interesting. Really he needs to have 2 cars with each battery and test them back to back. At least you will be able to do this now.I've asked him to do this test at lower SoC as well, as that is when it gets more noticeable, but he seemed reluctant.
I am getting my M3P 2022 with LG battery pack in August (received my VIN yesterday) then I can test it side by side with my 2022 Panasonic Performance.
His acceleration tests still show the main difference between the battery pack / BMS behavior:
Model Y Performance LG vs. Model 3 Performance Panasonic:
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Source MYP
- LG with high voltage drop, but high current. Absolute peak is around 415kW.
- Panasonic with low voltage drop, but lower current. Absolute peak is around 435-445kW.
- The additional power of the Panasonic is mostly sent to the front motor. (speed is not exactly the same).
- Both cars are 2022 models with 3D3 front motor and 3D6 rear motor.
Source M3P
Did you check out the Dragy database?Despite the difference in battery output the acceleration is not impacted.
There’s limited data on the European side to be conclusive. I looked at some similar YouTube videos using dragy, on a road rather than a track or drag strip. They were all between 3.88 and 3.91s on normal roads. Back to back (or side to side) is the only way we are going to ever know which one is very slightly quicker than the other.Did you check out the Dragy database?
US MYP do sub 3.8s runs were there is none that I could find in any Dragy database or Youtube Dragy run from the European side.
I agree that a side by side is the most telling comparison, but with the current data I disagree that acceleration is not impacted.
I had a 2021 and 2022 M3P simultaneously while waiting to sell the 2021. Not very scientific but I did a do a little check with a twig to see what all of the fuss was about. White M3P is the 2021. It does seem like the 2021 is a little lower. Granted I had 4,000 miles on the tires of the 2021 while the 2022 was fresh off of the lot. One thing I noticed pretty obviously was that the 2022 was smoother but the 2021 felt faster. Again, it's all anecdotal. I didn't do any scientific measurements. The seating position of the 2022 did not go as low as the 2021 also. It definitely sits higher.@Jan Kowalski Tesla no longer says the M3P is lowered in the US website. That changed earlier this year. To be sure you'd need to get out your measuring tape and compare with an LR. Tesla doesn't publish many hard specs for these cars, so they have wiggle room to keep building M3P's with the lowered suspension, even if they no longer advertise it on the order page. (Nothing they publish says it won't be lower!)
I've had the chance to compare the 2022 Panasonic and LG cars on the German Autobahn. Here is a short summary. I suggest using Google translate as it is written in "Krautsprache" aka German ;-)There’s limited data on the European side to be conclusive. I looked at some similar YouTube videos using dragy, on a road rather than a track or drag strip. They were all between 3.88 and 3.91s on normal roads. Back to back (or side to side) is the only way we are going to ever know which one is very slightly quicker than the other.
Great detail. So the motors with the LG 5L are putting out more despite the battery not providing more power. Also supported by the quicker 0-60mph time in the LG until aero effects take over like you mention and the slipstreaming vehicle benefits. However we are talking such minuscule differences between them.I've had the chance to compare the 2022 Panasonic and LG cars on the German Autobahn. Here is a short summary. I suggest using Google translate as it is written in "Krautsprache" aka German ;-)
Model 3 Performance 2022 - Panasonic vs. LG
Dieser erste Beitrag wird stetig um neue Daten und Erkenntnisse erweitert. Hintergrund Das Model 3 Performance 2022 wurde beim Wechsel von Quartal 1 auf Quartal 2 signifikant verändert! Der in Q4/2020 eingeführte Panasonic 3L 82kWh NCA Akku wurde durch den in Q4/2021 eingeführten LG Chem...tff-forum.de
Yep, that's the primary cause. Try driving your M3P with the seats folded down.M3P 2021 with same motors not make that high noise. Possible that trunk affect that much? Open/closed.
Need to test.Yep, that's the primary cause. Try driving your M3P with the seats folded down.