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On this graph, to go 10%→60%, it seems LG5C takes 45 minutes, whereas Pana only 30 minutes. That's 50% more, not 33% more time, which seems way worse than what I've seen on tff?
10-60% should be around 18 Minutes (E5CD) vs. 13min/15min for the Panasonics.On this graph, to go 10%→60%, it seems LG5C takes 45 minutes, whereas Pana only 30 minutes. That's 50% more, not 33% more time, which seems way worse than what I've seen on tff?
10-60% should be around 18 Minutes (E5CD) vs. 13min/15min for the Panasonics.
It might be confusing on the other two charts as they only show added km/capacity. They dont start at 10% rated range/capacity.
Yes, all Model Y coming to Europe right now are Y5CD with 507km WLTP. I expect the Y5LD to come in Q4 as model year 2022 and 542km of range.I just got the number plate of my Tesla model Y that wil be delivered next week in the Netherlands VIN055***. A ran the plate trough the check of the RDW, which is the government body that assigns the plates. It confirms that my Model Y is a Y5CD variant. So according to the first post in should have the new LG Chem NCMA battery.
According to the technical documentation there is no difference. Both are NCA with 4,8Ah per cell. The 3C is restricted to 4,15V and charges a little slower at the SuC, so I guess it has different limits set by the BMS.By the way is there any difference between Panasonic 2170 and 2170C? I ask because the graph shows PANA3 and not PANA3C.
Is it not NMCA ? (new battery with Aluminium)Model Y LR / LG Chem 75kWh NMC
When you get your car, can you check if acceleration boost is available, please?I just got the number plate of my Tesla model Y that wil be delivered next week in the Netherlands VIN055***. A ran the plate trough the check of the RDW, which is the government body that assigns the plates. It confirms that my Model Y is a Y5CD variant. So according to the first post in should have the new LG Chem NCMA battery.
There is a good chance, but it's not confirmed.From the discussion, I understand that I should get an 82kwh battery?
The old LG is NMC chemistry. No aluminium. The new one if filed as NMC as well, but leaks from China say NCMA.Is it not NMCA ? (new battery with Aluminium)
The Model Y (EU) currently has no option for acceleration boost in-app.When you get your car, can you check if acceleration boost is available, please?
If the car you are looking for is not ordered from the configurator, but from the existing Inventory then you can click on the desired cars details and then check the source code for option code BT38, which is the old 75kwh or BT?? whichever number is designated to the new LG battery. In any way the WLTP 507km is the old LG and 542km is the new one.This is really a bad news…
Any other hacky way?
Not to be a besserwisser, but 78.4/0.955 = 82.1kWh, thats the marked size (”when new”) of the 3L.Panasonic 3L 82,0kWh:
78,4 + 4,5% = 81,9kWh
LG Chem 5L 80,4kWh:
76,8 + 4,5% = 80,3kWh
Lot's of new inventory appeared over night on the tesla-info website and they all had the BT38 battery (which is the older LG pack). Here's one thats still for sale with the option codes expanded.Initially we only had the certification documents that showed two LR versions from LG.
Then one future owner, with a good connection to his SA got to see his option code list and saw BT38 -> Old LG.
Now its even more clear as the order page shows 507km of WLTP range. That is the Y5CD's range.
The 270km in 15 minutes (not even the old "up to") are the promise that most likely can't be kept.
There is a chance that the Model Y charges as little bit better, because of its higher cooling capacity, bit I don't believe it will make a big difference.