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I'm disagreeing on it being a _clear_ violation of the interstate commerce clause.
The interstate commerce clause only says that Congress has the power to regulate interstate commerce. But Congress hasn't regulated car sales and maintenance, only the vehicle and warranty.
I think Tesla will be pushing more on the other points, that the state government colluded with the dealers on the issue.
Wow, $600 registration. Is that just for EVs? How did they come up with that figure?
Thanks. It is great they do that.
I live in Troy area though.
Hi
I own a Tesla Model S since 2016. When I purchased the car, everything was hunky dory for S and X owners in Michigan since Tesla promised to send a flatbed to pick up your car and give you a loaner or send a ranger to fix your car issues. This arrangement lasted for a while but has lately gotten rocky to the point that now Tesla is downright abandoning their Michigan customers.
Last couple of times I have tried scheduling a service with Tesla they gave me a hard time about picking up my car then said they'd charge $100 for the picking up and dropping off a loaner. I pushed back and they showed some flexibility and continued the arrangement of picking up my car and dropping off a loaner one time.
But in the latest instance wherein I setup a service appointment (to fix the dreaded yellow screen and driving vibration issue under warranty), Tesla tells me that I will need to drive my car to either Toledo or Cleveland to get it taken care of. The problem is that I live approx. 90 miles one-way from Toledo and much farther still from Cleveland. I called up and asked why the heck were they being so difficult about this and they said that apparently they are doing this to even customers all the way in Traverse City. Now I don't know how much truth is associated with that last statement but if a Tesla customer in TC is expected to drive 300 miles to Toledo service then 1) either they think Tesla owners in Michigan are downright dumb or 2) such Tesla customers are so loyal to Tesla that they don't think anything of wasting an entire couple of days just driving their car to and from the Tesla service centers. In either case the situation is awful.
If this is the way Tesla chooses to treat its Michigan customers then I can safely say this is going to lead to an increasing number of customers moving away from purchasing a Tesla. I love my Tesla and love the fact that I am not driving an ICE but I have to say that Tesla with its myriad of quality issues that my car has experienced and now dwindling customer service is making me strongly consider trading in my car for a Nissan Leaf or something. At least I won't have to drive my Leaf 100 miles to get it serviced. Ever since the Model 3 launch I feel Tesla has gone to a terrible place in terms of their wait times and lack of customer service.
I am writing all this to inquire if other Michigan owners have lately had the same troublesome experience with getting Tesla service scheduled and car picked up? If yes and if you live upward of 70 miles away from Tesla service then how are you going about dealing with this situation? I am curious to hear some perspectives on this as from my standpoint this is an incredibly frustrating and brainless move Tesla is making toward Michigan customers. This is leaving me feeling quite distraught and considering options of getting rid of my Tesla. As hard as it would be to give up on Tesla I feel that the quality issues are too many in my car (and other Teslas from what I have read) and to waste half a day going to and from a service center every time is just absolutely assinine but it seems like Tesla has put its foot down and is not thinking this through for Michigan customers.
Thank you!
I’m a Tesla fanboy. I bought a Model X in 2017 and a Model 3 in June of last year. I also bought a ton of Tesla stock. My family and friends are sick of hearing me rave about the car.
Same promises were made to me when I bought my cars. Service was never going to be an issue. Ranger or Valet service with loaner.
But today they have confirmed in writing no valet service for Michigan. Even if you live 7 hours away. This is not what I expected from Tesla.
I've had the yellow touchscreen issue for over a year and now they finally have the tool to fix it; but I would have to spend basically the entire day in Toledo to get it fixed. So I cancelled my appointment.
I can understand others may have always had to take the car to a distant service center, but you knew that before buying the car. Those of us in Michigan were sold a car with the promise of valet service since there are no service centers in Michigan.
Yes; no service centers is because of our corrupt politicians that are in the pockets of the dealer association but, Tesla was always above that, and looked after it’s customers first. I guess no longer.
I had a conversation today with the person in charge of the Michigan region service and he said he has been hearing many of us complain but his hands are tied. He has bought it up to senior management multiple times but as of now nothing is changing.
I’m concerned this will not only hurt Tesla sales in Michigan but will dent the brand as well. One that relies on word of mouth.
My father was planning to get a Model S in December, not now. I have 2 other friends that were getting a Tesla this year and are now reconsidering.
I can no longer recommend a Tesla to anyone in Michigan that is not close to Toledo, OH.
I’m a Tesla fanboy. I bought a Model X in 2017 and a Model 3 in June of last year. I also bought a ton of Tesla stock. My family and friends are sick of hearing me rave about the car.
Same promises were made to me when I bought my cars. Service was never going to be an issue. Ranger or Valet service with loaner.
But today they have confirmed in writing no valet service for Michigan. Even if you live 7 hours away. This is not what I expected from Tesla.
I've had the yellow touchscreen issue for over a year and now they finally have the tool to fix it; but I would have to spend basically the entire day in Toledo to get it fixed. So I cancelled my appointment.
I can understand others may have always had to take the car to a distant service center, but you knew that before buying the car. Those of us in Michigan were sold a car with the promise of valet service since there are no service centers in Michigan.
Yes; no service centers is because of our corrupt politicians that are in the pockets of the dealer association but, Tesla was always above that, and looked after it’s customers first. I guess no longer.
I had a conversation today with the person in charge of the Michigan region service and he said he has been hearing many of us complain but his hands are tied. He has bought it up to senior management multiple times but as of now nothing is changing.
I’m concerned this will not only hurt Tesla sales in Michigan but will dent the brand as well. One that relies on word of mouth.
My father was planning to get a Model S in December, not now. I have 2 other friends that were getting a Tesla this year and are now reconsidering.
I can no longer recommend a Tesla to anyone in Michigan that is not close to Toledo, OH.
...shameless and awful way in which it is turning its back on Michigan customers and going back on its word has left me with a lot of disdain and contempt for Tesla...
Hopefully, when Tesla will become profitable and strong, it will be able to compensate for its absence in Michigan with first-class mobile service and towing again!
Not gonna happen...
Not because I think Tesla doesn't wan't it to, but it can't....
Lest people forget...Tesla is a public company....they have shareholders....(and activist shareholders at some point...) and they have no choice. The quarterly 10K trumps everything else. They have got to make Wall St happy. You do realize that Elon...has a humongous pay package riding on the stock price...don't you?
The service doesn't matter...the quality doesn't matter...as long as sales are coming in...and the bottom line can be "manipulated" to look good...or really good...that's all that matters.
Hopefully the Tesla v Michigan lawsuit in Feb 2020 clears this up. I am disgusted by our Michigan politicians.
Yet you guys keep voting for them.... It blows my mind (and I see this in other states, and even federal) that Democrats will struggle between the green/environmental portion of their platform and the labor union portion of their platform. Tesla straddles that spectrum where the UAW vs. Tesla is a big contradictory issue, as well as the news media vs. Tesla where they almost cheer for Tesla's defeat, as well as the dealer associations, etc. It's sad to see, but very interesting.
Yet you guys keep voting for them.... It blows my mind (and I see this in other states, and even federal) that Democrats will struggle between the green/environmental portion of their platform and the labor union portion of their platform. Tesla straddles that spectrum where the UAW vs. Tesla is a big contradictory issue, as well as the news media vs. Tesla where they almost cheer for Tesla's defeat, as well as the dealer associations, etc. It's sad to see, but very interesting.
FYI is was bipartisan MI government that banned Tesla in MI. And a republican governor if you must know who signed the bill into law.
it was a republican Joe Hune who strengthened the law. It was a republican governor who signed it into law. I contacted the governors office after the initial signing and they said they would review it again in the future. Well....no change the next time it came up.
Free market republicans MY ASS!
Fortunately there are some other decent republicans trying to help out Tesla. Tommy Brann and another one that I Think his first name is Alex. He’s a good guy.