powertoold
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but I had no slowdowns or BWR’s
I still get these, but they're much smoother on 10.6, and I'm ok with pressing the accelerator. 10.5 was too uncomfortable with constant mini + abrupt hesitations.
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but I had no slowdowns or BWR’s
I still get these, but they're much smoother on 10.6, and I'm ok with pressing the accelerator. 10.5 was too uncomfortable with constant mini + abrupt hesitations.
Remember, it's FSD Beta, not FSD Level 4 or 5.But I mean, I have both hands on the wheel like I'm driving...that isn't progress.
you can try. A couple weeks ago I was sitting in traffic just beyond a split where the road I was on splits off for a bypass. The MY probably could have turned without hopping the curb but was clearly illegal at that point with the paint markings. The split was probably about 50 yards to my rear.Nobody has it. Check his videos again - he doesn’t have it either.
But, you can cancel a lane change as soon as it turns the signal on. Or disengage and send an error report.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a general FSD Beta behavior to slow down when the destination is not clear, e.g., if visualization cannot show something clear 3 seconds away, slow down. This second picture at 31mph does have some plants towards the left edge blocking a little bit of what seems to be a slightly downward sloping bend. I would guess sending video snapshots *after* completing the bend will help future neural networks predict further ahead with more confidence.View attachment 741061 To me this is confirmation that FSD is slowing down for the bends
There has been complaints from several prominent beta testers who have 2 strikes or actually locked out even though their videos clearly showed they were paying attention. Perhaps Tesla is addressing this and paused the roll out?Teslafi.com show the following percentages for 10.5 and 10.6. Roughly a quarter of FSD beta cars are at 10.6 but the percentages haven't moved in the past 24 hrs.
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There has been complaints from several prominent beta testers who have 2 strikes or actually locked out even though their videos clearly showed they were paying attention. Perhaps Tesla is addressing this and paused the roll out?
I still feel it is a planned move to reduce speed before a bend. Unlike AP, FSD is map-aware and can reduce speed based on mapping information of bends coming up.I wouldn't be surprised if this was a general FSD Beta behavior to slow down when the destination is not clear, e.g., if visualization cannot show something clear 3 seconds away, slow down.
so much variation. I don't drive much at night but let beta take me home from my daughter's thanksgiving night. It was the best drive ever.I've made the determination to not use FSD beta at night. It is god awful at night for me (maybe it's just bad map data? Not sure.)
Night in rain is the problem for me. In general night driving is as good or better than morning. Check the TomTom/OSM maps on the route where you had problems ...I've made the determination to not use FSD beta at night. It is god awful at night for me (maybe it's just bad map data? Not sure.)
I retested this with the same 10.5 - but this time in daytime. I got the exact same slowdowns from 40 mph to 30 mph. Two times on 2 bends.
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Then, I returned to the same road minutes later - but this time with just AP using AP profile. As you can see here - no slowdowns at all.
To me this is confirmation that FSD is slowing down for the bends and this is not phantom braking as I had earlier assumed. Those getting such slowdowns on twisty roads should reconsider whether those are phantom braking or just FSD slowing down for the bends.
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It’s not on duty so noAren't you required to move to the edge of the road and stop for emergency vehicles in California?
over cautious de-celeration
To be clear, FSD Beta drives on what it believes (predicts) is there and not actually what is visible. Given enough training data, it can make pretty reasonable predictions of what is the likely road layout even when occluded by vehicles, plants or even buildings:FSDbeta would slow on some turns where it couldn't, nor could I, see around the bend
Details?I've made the determination to not use FSD beta at night. It is god awful at night for me (maybe it's just bad map data? Not sure.)
Yep, that’s me. It did it unnecessarily, but it was reacting to a car in crossing traffic while creeping. While there was a non-zero possibility that I could have hallucinated but it was unlikely. First, the car was already stopped for a while before creeping backward, and my reference object is the parked big ass truck that’s not moving at all, so not a typical misperception situation. Second, the car was doing it slowly on a slope at the parking exit so I felt the bump, and even have time to take a look that it was in Drive. Still a non-zero possibility, but consider others reported in the similar scenario, it is likely a built-in logic. However the judgement of the car was still off.Here's the report of the car going into reverse.
I have not heard of anyone else reporting this. Plus, this was once tweeted as a future feature but was never shown in the release notes. You mention you were on a slope. Sometimes the car will roll back on a slope of the brakes are not held tightly enough. That appears to be the most likely explanation.Yep, that’s me. It did it unnecessarily, but it was reacting to a car in crossing traffic while creeping. While there was a non-zero possibility that I could have hallucinated but it was unlikely. First, the car was already stopped for a while before creeping backward, and my reference object is the parked big ass truck that’s not moving at all, so not a typical misperception situation. Second, the car was doing it slowly on a slope at the parking exit so I felt the bump, and even have time to take a look that it was in Drive. Still a non-zero possibility, but consider others reported in the similar scenario, it is likely a built-in logic. However the judgement of the car was still off.
My guess is the built-in logic is to do this when the car is way into the lane and there is crossing traffic. In Chuck’s case, car didn’t consider itself in the lane so it never did reverse. But in my case, car was indeed deep in the lane, but due to the big truck parked on the left, it actually didn’t creep enough and did not need to reverse. Very special scenario so rarely reported.