Coming Soon in Canada: Gas Stations With Climate-Change Warnings

[ggies07]

Because they cut and pasted a couple of quotes from a report written by Pentagon bureaucrats with a political agenda? That qualifies as peer reviewed?

I agree with the premise of James Anders, this is the reason why people treat it as a political issue. Because it seems it is about money, power and more regulation, which circularly solidifies more power.

Honest question that I have been wanting to ask but did not want to start a new discussion. Couldn't this whole COP-21 meeting been done virtually? All through modern virtual technology? I believe that this would have resonated more in the hearts of people who are in my opinion legitimately skeptical. Imagine if the world leasers had said:

"Climate change and carbon emissions are directly correlated. That being said, we see the urgency and do not want to contribute to a negative carbon footprint. Therefore, this will be the first virtual meeting of 150 world leaders, etc. We are setting the example.....and showing you how technology can be a suitable mechanism for in person meetings and a large portion of jet travel"

Would that have not been more compelling to the general public and seemed less hypocritical and self serving?

While that is a great idea in theory, it's a straw man argument. Conversations are best held face to face and with this being such an important topic, it needs to be. The leaders will be going back and forth on the details of any plan they make - could you imagine if the connection was not stable?

 

[nwdiver]

Because they cut and pasted a couple of quotes from a report written by Pentagon bureaucrats with a political agenda? That qualifies as peer reviewed?

If the DOD has a political agenda wouldn't it be in the other direction? The governing body that approves their budget is deep in AGW denial. The QDR is one of the more heavily reviewed reports; one of it's goals is to assist with resource allocation. Where are the 'hot spots' likely to be? Increasingly that question is more literal... where are the droughts going to be?

Which aspect do you take issue with? That AGW causes more severe droughts? That more severe droughts cause crop failures? That crop failures cause famine and higher food prices? Or that it's easier to recruit rebels and jihadists in a population of hungry, angry people and unemployed farmers vs a population of well fed people and farmers busy harvesting their crops.

The connection is fairly obvious if you stop and think about it.

 

[Ktowntslafan]

If the DOD has a political agenda wouldn't it be in the other direction? The governing body that approves their budget is deep in AGW denial. The QDR is one of the more heavily reviewed reports; one of it's goals is to assist with resource allocation. Where are the 'hot spots' likely to be? Increasingly that question is more literal... where are the droughts going to be?

Which aspect do you take issue with? That AGW causes more severe droughts? That more severe droughts cause crop failures? That crop failures cause famine and higher food prices? Or that it's easier to recruit rebels and jihadists in a population of hungry, angry people and unemployed farmers vs a population of well fed people and farmers busy harvesting their crops.

The connection is fairly obvious if you stop and think about it.

This whole discussion is going on here (post #69): Devastating attacks in Paris, hostages taken ahead of COP21 climate talks - Page 7

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While that is a great idea in theory, it's a straw man argument. Conversations are best held face to face and with this being such an important topic, it needs to be. The leaders will be going back and forth on the details of any plan they make - could you imagine if the connection was not stable?

Agreed...we don't want our leaders to drive an EV, we want them to figure out how to get everyone driving EV's, that's real change. So what if they have to drive an ICE to get to that meeting. Everyone's burning FF's everyday on the road, in the air, COP21 will hopefully be GHG well spent (burned?).

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The alternative to ICE is not just a $100k EV - it's also public transit. So, there are options one can afford.

Better yet...E-buses!

Ktown on Twitter: (doing my civic duty!)

 

[Ktowntslafan]

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