Cars, Candidates, Loans, and Bailouts

[Doug_G]

This would imply that either he's cynically grandstanding to get votes, or he's an idiot. Don't feel you have to choose just one option.

 

[Trnsl8r]

... Don't feel you have to choose just one option.

:biggrin: I'm starting to think we need a "like" button on this forum...

 

[NigelM]

Be careful, the Canadians only want to keep their export prices up!:wink:

 

[Dan5]

This would imply that either he's cynically grandstanding to get votes, or he's an idiot. Don't feel you have to choose just one option.

Can I choose both? This is almost exactly what all the politicians did with proposing the "gas tax holiday" back in 2008.

The only one whose been fairly consistent is Ron Paul
I like some of the stuff : No auto bail outs for GM or Chrysler, no oil subsidies, free market
Neutral on the "no auto loans to develop new auto tech"- to be fair Tesla is the only one who came up with good tech for the money
Don't like the fact that he would rescind the tax credit (but rescind the IRS altogether- I like that part) and put a national sales tax (being taxed double when making big purchases if saving up for years) .

If you took out all the subsidies, oil (5 billion subsidy/year) would go up about 20% (about the same as the 7.5 K rebate for the EVs over the life of the car)

 

[brucedp]

While not directly related to Tesla EVs per se,
a post to the DIY archive via the evdl might be enlightening,
or at least interesting to some

Electric Vehicle Discussion List - EVLN: DIY Volt Gun Rack
EVLN: DIY Volt Gun Rack
A Dolt's Misconception


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[Lloyd]

Studebaker plans resurgance with Electric Vehicles!!

Studebaker Plans Resurgence That Includes Hybrid, Electric Models: #evworld

Anybody Else ????

 

[dpeilow]

^ wrong thread?

 

[dpeilow]

Delusions About the Detroit Bailout

 

[dpeilow]

UAW Thoughtfully Reminds Romney Of His Own Words

 

[dpeilow]

BBC News - In pictures: The Ruins of Detroit

 

[doug]

BBC News - In pictures: The Ruins of Detroit

Breathtakingly post apocalyptic. Where's Charlton Heston when you need him?

 

[TEG]

Where's Charlton Heston when you need him?

 

[doug]

I was more going for Omega Man, which fits the Detroit photos, but I suppose those are his cold dead hands pictured at the bottom of the box.

 

[dpeilow]

There was a brilliant documentary on the same theme a couple of years ago.

BBC Two - Requiem for Detroit?


If you can find it, well worth seeing.

 

[Robert.Boston]

Also recommended (lighter side) reading from The Onion:

Detroit Sold for Scrap

Detroit Mayor Throws First Brick in Glass-Breaking Ceremony for New Slum

 

[doug]

Mitt Romney's Big Fat Auto Bailout Lie | Commentary content from WardsAuto

 

[vfx]

DOE no Longer Able to Fund Clean Technology Ventures after Budget Cuts

http://oilprice.com/Alternative-Ene...an-Technology-Ventures-after-Budget-Cuts.html

 

[VolkerP]

Mitt Romney's Big Fat Auto Bailout Lie | Commentary content from WardsAuto

Nice article! Quote from the last sentence:

GM and Chrysler will prove success indeed is the best revenge.

add Tesla there, too.

 

[vfx]

White House unveils $4.7B plan to boost advanced vehicles

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120307/AUTO01/203070406/1148/rss25

But in a major policy shift, President Barack Obama wants to broaden a government tax credit that was created to support electric vehicles. He now wants to include other types of advanced vehicles, including those that run on fossil fuels such as compressed natural gas.The shift comes as Americans fail to embrace electric cars as fast as many predicted. It is increasingly unlikely, if not impossible, that the U.S. will have 1 million plug-in and electric vehicles on the roads by 2015. Obama had proposed that goal as a presidential candidate.​

 

[doug]

The shift comes as Americans fail to embrace electric cars as fast as many predicted. It is increasingly unlikely, if not impossible, that the U.S. will have 1 million plug-in and electric vehicles on the roads by 2015.

I don't know about a million by 2015, but the "failure to embrace" conclusion seems rather premature. They're just getting started.