Hi guys,
I sold my 2018 boosted AWD 3 yesterday and am looking forward to picking up a new P3 in a few weeks. To that end I have several questions. I'm posting this in "driving dynamics" as it seems like it'll get the eyes of the people I'm looking for, my people.
1. Has the temperature power issues been resolved? I recall hearing the new models lost a ton of power if they weren't up to proper temps. I have a Vbox and Dragy and will do loads of testing. Did they software update that issue away? Was it never an issue? I'd be somewhat disappointed if the P3 didn't punch as hard as my boosted AWD on the highway.
2. What's actually different about the suspension? Just different springs? Sway bars?
3. Track mode on the street? I'm looking forward to finally having more control on the power of the vehicle. [clutch pearls here] To the people that DO drive it like this, what settings do you usually use and how does it make the car feel and respond? I'm certainly not looking to decrease my times of running errands but I would like to increase my "fun" in how it feels on the awesome twisty roads near me. Do you set any rear bias and if so are you losing overall power by doing so? Clearly if you set it to full FWD or RWD it would have less overall power. Has anyone scanned the vehicle at various settings to see at what point you lose power? Is stock bias the best?
4. Let's talk tires. Nearly every car I've had I've immediately thrown out the stock tires installed some iteration of Pilot Sports. I've even thrown out Cup2 tires for Pilot Sports. To me, Pilot Sports are the Tesla of tires. There's tires, then there's pilot sports. Anyway...how are these Pirellis? My quick search showed that people didn't like them as much and that some people switch to Pilot Sports and still weren't impressed. I'm not sure what to make of this. Are the Pirellis good in the rain? To me, the pilot sports are totally fine in the rain...the cups way less so. I intend to trade this car in for a Roadster when the time comes so I'm not sure how many sets of tires I'll go through. Do I simply take these off right away and sell them for PS4, or is it fine? To the people who say go for PS4, what sizes? I saw the thread with the wider PS4s, and they look great, but in my experience you get much better feedback and driving feel in a car that has that stretched tire look to it. I've thrown wider tires on cars in the past and, while it looked cool, it completely messed up the actual driving dynamics.
5. Winter tires/wheels! I live in NY and have a steep driveway. I see there's 19" Gemini's with the awesome Scottozero's on the Tesla website. I'm not sure I want to spend $3500 for wheels I don't love the looks of for possibly one season. Any other good options out there? Not sure if wrapping the stock wheels in Scottozero's is the best idea where I live. And on this subject what's different about the wheel hubs that some wheels work and others do not? Different offset?
6. Are the massive gains to be made by just canning the stock wheels/tires and going aftermarket? Not looking to break the bank. I LOVE how the new wheels look but I heard they're a little portly. Is driving feel radically improved dropping that much weight on the corners? Are the new wheels as soft and bendy as the previous performance wheels?
7. Is the battery pack confirmed to be larger like the AWD? I presume it is but heard rumblings that it isn't. It didn't gain that many miles in the refresh.
8. Any other low hanging fruit to make this car better on the cheap and easy side that doesn't mess with the warranty? SS brake lines for example...[warranty killer]?
9. Anything else I should know. Even though I'm coming from mostly the same car I'm suuuuper excited. If I was a zillionaire and could have any car on the planet to drive daily this would still be my choice.
Thank you for your time!
Best,
Gene
p.s. Here are my previous rides:
I sold my 2018 boosted AWD 3 yesterday and am looking forward to picking up a new P3 in a few weeks. To that end I have several questions. I'm posting this in "driving dynamics" as it seems like it'll get the eyes of the people I'm looking for, my people.
1. Has the temperature power issues been resolved? I recall hearing the new models lost a ton of power if they weren't up to proper temps. I have a Vbox and Dragy and will do loads of testing. Did they software update that issue away? Was it never an issue? I'd be somewhat disappointed if the P3 didn't punch as hard as my boosted AWD on the highway.
2. What's actually different about the suspension? Just different springs? Sway bars?
3. Track mode on the street? I'm looking forward to finally having more control on the power of the vehicle. [clutch pearls here] To the people that DO drive it like this, what settings do you usually use and how does it make the car feel and respond? I'm certainly not looking to decrease my times of running errands but I would like to increase my "fun" in how it feels on the awesome twisty roads near me. Do you set any rear bias and if so are you losing overall power by doing so? Clearly if you set it to full FWD or RWD it would have less overall power. Has anyone scanned the vehicle at various settings to see at what point you lose power? Is stock bias the best?
4. Let's talk tires. Nearly every car I've had I've immediately thrown out the stock tires installed some iteration of Pilot Sports. I've even thrown out Cup2 tires for Pilot Sports. To me, Pilot Sports are the Tesla of tires. There's tires, then there's pilot sports. Anyway...how are these Pirellis? My quick search showed that people didn't like them as much and that some people switch to Pilot Sports and still weren't impressed. I'm not sure what to make of this. Are the Pirellis good in the rain? To me, the pilot sports are totally fine in the rain...the cups way less so. I intend to trade this car in for a Roadster when the time comes so I'm not sure how many sets of tires I'll go through. Do I simply take these off right away and sell them for PS4, or is it fine? To the people who say go for PS4, what sizes? I saw the thread with the wider PS4s, and they look great, but in my experience you get much better feedback and driving feel in a car that has that stretched tire look to it. I've thrown wider tires on cars in the past and, while it looked cool, it completely messed up the actual driving dynamics.
5. Winter tires/wheels! I live in NY and have a steep driveway. I see there's 19" Gemini's with the awesome Scottozero's on the Tesla website. I'm not sure I want to spend $3500 for wheels I don't love the looks of for possibly one season. Any other good options out there? Not sure if wrapping the stock wheels in Scottozero's is the best idea where I live. And on this subject what's different about the wheel hubs that some wheels work and others do not? Different offset?
6. Are the massive gains to be made by just canning the stock wheels/tires and going aftermarket? Not looking to break the bank. I LOVE how the new wheels look but I heard they're a little portly. Is driving feel radically improved dropping that much weight on the corners? Are the new wheels as soft and bendy as the previous performance wheels?
7. Is the battery pack confirmed to be larger like the AWD? I presume it is but heard rumblings that it isn't. It didn't gain that many miles in the refresh.
8. Any other low hanging fruit to make this car better on the cheap and easy side that doesn't mess with the warranty? SS brake lines for example...[warranty killer]?
9. Anything else I should know. Even though I'm coming from mostly the same car I'm suuuuper excited. If I was a zillionaire and could have any car on the planet to drive daily this would still be my choice.
Thank you for your time!
Best,
Gene
p.s. Here are my previous rides:
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