I was confused, too, until I realized that I was thinking Panasonic=Japanese people and Tesla =Americans. I think he is consistently saying that the people Panasonic sends from Japan are excellent, while all the Americans they hired for Panasonic are incompetent (have to add he is an American). And while Tesla has fired some of their staff at GF, he says Panasonic needs to do the same with some of their US employees.
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I was confused, too, until I realized that I was thinking Panasonic=Japanese people and Tesla =Americans. I think he is consistently saying that the people Panasonic sends from Japan are excellent, while all the Americans they hired for Panasonic are incompetent (have to add he is an American). And while Tesla has fired some of their staff at GF, he says Panasonic needs to do the same with some of their US employees.
For any part, you may have consistency issues, especially if it involves some form of molding, casting, cutting, sewing, etc. If it's a laser cut part, it's probably more consistent, but many additive and subtractive manufacturing techniques can potentially have undesired variances that take time to fix (or replace the supplier if they're incapable of it). Sometimes it's just a matter of one set of molds having a minor defect for example, and if the supplier doesn't catch this, reject it themselves, and make enough parts to make up for it, the customer (in this case, Tesla) is not going to be happy if they care at all about quality. In this case (the seats), the supplier might be Tesla, or perhaps the original supplier dropped the ball so bad they've already insourced it.
It's not unheard of (but not typical at the level of automotive manufacturing, more common for cheap toy widgets built in china) to get high quality consistent parts during the initial review due to the manufacturer carefully controlling the quality and making enough parts to get the job, then slacking off once they have it and allowing bad parts through.
Yes. He’s constantly praising the quality of the Japanese techs from Japan. Just frustrated that they do not have the same level of competency in their American hires. And frustrated by the Japanese techs (TAs) inability to communicate with their American counterparts/managers due to the language barrier.
Thought it was interesting how he pointed out that he had been calling for a round of firing with his previous post before the current firing. And how he clearly felt vindicated by the current firings, and basically saying that Panasonic needs to do the same.
bdy0627
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What is it with Elon and seats??? They're just seats. The Model X seats cost many option holders dearly I suspect. Now, it's possibly happening again with the Model 3?!! This from a man who is routinely landing rockets on barges in the ocean? C'mon man.
For what it's worth, it's the same person.This does lend some support to the story from "random racist" about a week ago. I agree, if irregular power supply is a grave issue it should have been addressed long ago -- it's not as if Tesla hadn't heard of battery Power Packs
3Victoria
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Someone needs to send Endeeps comments to Elon. He will either dismiss them, or take action. They sound credible to me. Especially the part about incompetent managers not liking their incompetence to be pointed out. EM is stretched, but needs to act, if necessary.
Same person and spamming of same comments with slight variations to what he posted 19 days ago.
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I don't know how a rounded off bolt head would cause "further equipment damage".
Ever try to get a bolt out with rounded head? Grinder, drill, left handed ez-out. There can be collateral damage to the threads in the hole and surrounding areas.
I went and read his comments. The whole thing sounds logical. Seems genuine to me unless he is extremely good at it.
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Thumper
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Any bolt can be removed and the internal thread saved by an EDM (electrical discharge machining) process. Unfortunately, the part with the female thread must be stripped and immersed while removal is done, but it is possible.
Few ways. Grind flats on the sides of the head to get a grip with. Grind a slot in the head and use flat screwdriver. Grind a flat on the head to ease drilling the bolt out or making pilot hole for easy out.
Agreed, easy out not usually used on bolt, but may be better than drilling out the bolt. Left handed drill bits also useful.
Nice!
Depending on situation, you can weld (pick your method.. probably not stick... unless really big bolt) a nut to the exposed bolt and then wretch it off.
Thumper
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. I think you are not visualizing EDM correctly. EDM destroys the broken stub of a broken bolt. There is nothing to weld to.
Sorry for the confusion, I was just bringing up another process to remove a worn/snapped bolt, not electrical discharge machining.
Well, the neat was referring to EDM since I hadn't considered it for use in that way. But if it can form a cooling channel in a turbine blade, no reason it can't remove a bolt.
mmd
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Folks, stop fooling yourself about the new found excuse of GF bottleneck
For the handful of M3s Tesla is making now, it could just buy the batteries from the local Walmart Superstore or order from Amazon prime.
I'm expecting an electric SEMI-truck load of excuses in the upcoming ER. But yeah, the target of "M3 in production" was met for all vesting purposes.
For the handful of M3s Tesla is making now, it could just buy the batteries from the local Walmart Superstore or order from Amazon prime.
I'm expecting an electric SEMI-truck load of excuses in the upcoming ER. But yeah, the target of "M3 in production" was met for all vesting purposes.
This seems to be part of his frustration. Tesla can't easily solve the issues, because they are Panasonic issues, not Tesla issues.
I also question how cavalier people seem to be in thinking that Panasonic can just send over Japanese people to run the factory. While I'm sure they are trying to do this, it is probably not that easy. They probably don't have hundreds, or thousands of extra Japanese production workers that they can send to a different country on short notice. It may not be that easy, or even possible to get the right work visa's to make this happen. What would happen to their Japanese factories if they did this? Even if they did have the people, just finding a place for them to live, and transportation would be a huge hassle. It sounds like there are also issues that they promised the state of Nevada they would hire mostly local workers.
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