I've just heard there's a new Supercharger at our service at a place called G-Tom in Kyoto: 京都府京都市山科区栗栖野華ノ木町16-6
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I've just heard there's a new Supercharger at our service at a place called G-Tom in Kyoto: 京都府京都市山科区栗栖野華ノ木町16-6
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Hi, I was there having a lunch with 5 Tesla owners. When I arrived two cars were there but seems they weren't our cars. We were at a Japanese Grand Hyatt restaurant and one guy went out early. At that time the first car was still charging but the second was gone, so one of our friends who needed a range charge as he traveled back to Kansai yesterday.
My wife went out to check the first car once later, but it was still there so she complained to the attendant that the attendants should ask phone numbers if the driver goes out.
One hour later when the meeting (now four Tesla drivers) was over, two left from P2, the range charging car also left, and I grabbed the first car's spot as he moved out after three hours.
Yesterday, left spot had only 35kW and right spot had 85kW. I don't know why the sum became 120kW... My friend's car took more than two hours to range charge as he was in the left spot.
So the real problem was the first car being there more than three hours, and attendants seem to know who he was, as he rents the parking there (or P2). I hope the next time the attendants teach him how to use a Supercharger.
And I still doubt Tesla or GH may have skimped on electricity for SC...
Hello all,
I'm envious that you guys even get to wrangle for Supercharger slots. I'm sure your discussions now will help set etiquette for future use. Maybe we can create a form here or the mailing list for what info to put on our cars.
I understand current Superchargers divide energy into 12 parts for each paired station, with a total of 120 kW available. First user gets up to 12, depending on how low the battery is. If another user comes, he will 3-4 units, taking away those from the first user. As the first user's battery fills, more units transfer to the second user. So it's a work in progress as time goes on.
Hiroshi has made contact with other owners. Perhaps you can do some experiments over the next few weeks. Have 2 members charge in varying states and watch the results. Just an idea.
Hi, Sean, Jay,
It is difficult to educate people. We can, however, keep asking Tesla and in Grand Hyatt's case the valet employees to note the phone numbers of each charging Tesla, and call the owner when the next car comes in. We can also let Tesla know that 2 Superchargers seemed not enough at this very convenient location.
>But I did not see your car Hiroshi.
My car wasn't charging from noon to approx 3pm - it was in the Hyatt's parking, as I know my friend require 2+ hour range charge before finishing long lunch.
BTW I always post my phone number on the windshield.
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My understanding was that the total would be 135kW. Also, if only one car was charging, I'm supposed to get up to 120kW if the SOC is low and battery is warm. Today's case, my friend's 35kW was charging alone, and my 85kW was also charging alone. That's why I'm wondering... The same friend mentioned that the new Kyoto SC only give him up to 60kW at low SOC (but cold).
Hi, @tfukushi :Hi all,
I wanted to share my Supercharger experience (at GH Tokyo) with you. I used Supercharger B (center) after 21:00 in a weekday in this week. It took almost one hour to fill up the battery from 20% to 80%. It was almost twice as long as my average charging time there: Sep-Dec 2014, charging alone in many cases, although it is still fast, reliable and convenient enough for my life with Model S.
In the first half of the one hour, I got only 25-35kW, probably because another Model S started charging at Supercharger A (corner) just a few minutes before I came in. This car went out approximately 25-30 minutes later and at that time my battery was 45-50% charged. Then nobody used Supercharger A, but I got only 60-80kW and needed to spend another half hour to fill up to 80%. During the one hour the voltage was relatively stable at 370-390V and the ampere was up-and-down: around 70A in the first half, up to 205A and then down to 110A.
The lower watt in the first half was understandable and inevitable in this situation. The longer-than-expected time for the second half was maybe because I set the charge limit at 80% or Model S cannot get the highest watt from 50% SOC, I guess. Lower temperature in winter can be another factor, even though my battery itself would be warm enough at that time.
Otherwise the electric power for Supercharger B may have been limited due to some unknown factors... I know that Supercharger B had been out of order for a while in Nov and was repaired by Tesla engineers, but I am not sure whether this is related to the fact that recently we cannot get more than 100kW there. As far as I know the electric power for GH Tokyo Supercharger A and B is managed by one control unit in the parking space. All the electric power for the Roppongi Hills complex is fully generated by its in-house power generation systems, which have enough capacity to provide energies to outside the complex if needed. There would be no constraints in energy supply for the Supercharger control unit, I hope.
Hi, @tfukushi :
Yeah, now I remember that they generate their own electricity by private gas turbine generators. So they must have no issues for demand charges utilities typically charge.
I asked a few questions to Tesla but no replies from them so far. I need to teach them it's pretty rude not answering client emails here in Japan. Different standards apply ;-)