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4680 is a failure, it's just the simple truth. Videos have shown Cybertrucks at only 40% state of charge only pulling 109 Kw from V3 Superchargers. That's pathetic. And FSD is a gimmick, a very overpriced one at that. Reason why I didn't go ahead with the Foundation Series.

You are so right. Manufacturer price gouging is way worse. Jeep is going through the same thing. Jeep has raised prices like 20+% over the last three years and now they are feeling some serious pain. After those first ~50K or so gotta have it now "FOMO" people get their Cybertruck Founders...

They are NOT sending every person FE invites in those low order tiers. I am a RN11275XXX, with 2019 FSD, and did NOT get an invite, and plenty of people with higher number orders in RN11276XXX, RN11277XXX and higher are getting invites before me. Not that I would order one, as I've said the FE...

They most certainly aren't offering Founders Editions in order. I have a low reservation number, didn't get an invite and my friend who has a higher reservation number did. We are in the same state. There are people in the many tens of thousands high reservation numbers getting FE invites and...

Oh, also, Tesla is withholding the "no re-sell" clause until AFTER the buyer puts down a non-refundable $1000 deposit. You cannot see that clause until you hand over the money. If that isn't underhanded, I don't know what is.

Hmm, I guess we have different views on what a scam is. IMO the above what I posted easily fits under a deceptive act.

The scam is "revealing" that the dual motor is $80K and the tri-motor is $100K. Those are FAKE prices for the media and chump deposit holders. The dual motor is $100K and the tri-motor is $120K to pad Tesla profit for years of "foundation editions". Just like the original 2019 prices were a...

Ya, and? Not every CT needs a vault cover. I would actually remove it as I would be putting a camper shell on the back anyway.

One of the big supposed reasons for "direct sales" from manufacturers was to have a set price and eliminate dealership price gouging. Tesla just internalized the dealer gouging. And no, the invites aren't going in order. Basically the Founders Edition is just a money grab to have more wealthy...

Ya this price gouging on the "Founders Edition" really put a bad taste in peoples mouths. Thought with direct sales we were getting away from dealer gouging. But Tesla just replaced the dealers with their own gouging. Everything these days is a scam.

Cybertruck is such a scam. Tesla bypassing early reservation holders to see who will pony up an extra $20K ON TOP of a ~50% price increase on all models from reveal. Terrible ~320 mile range that will be like 250 miles in real life and 200 in winter. No spare tire. If you get a spare tire it...

This is getting ridiculous. Why can they not build this freaking Alamosa charger? I bought a house in Crestone based off of this Alamosa SC that's been promised for over 5 years. Colorado has way too many charging holes across it. Absurd that Tesla lets these huge gaps in SC coverage remain in...

God that earnings call was terrible. I'm so glad I had the foresight to reserve a Rivian R1S and Hummer EV SUV last year. IMO those are both going to easily beat the CT to market. I've been following Tesla for most of the company's lifespan; the vague talk about it today means it's a 2024...

Wow way too dark. I bet it's hard as heck to see out of your car at night.

I just took delivery of my MY performance and drove it over 200 miles home from Atlanta. I was surprised how well the AP worked. I only had one significant phantom slow down (not a full oh phantom brake). The lane keep assist seemed to work better than my 2020 M3P and there was none of the crazy...

My MYP was scheduled delivery window of Aug28th to Sep3rd, but I just got the text and earliest delivery appointment was Sep 4th in Atlanta. I was hoping I could get it this weekend, but waiting one more week isn't the end of the world!

What is this SA talk? I placed an order on July 10th and am supposed to take delivery in a little over a week. No one from Tesla has ever contacted me.

There are quite a few videos. I think the 1" lowered suspension height on the Performance makes up for the extra wheel weight, basically making their range the same. There is a misnomer about the Long Range, it would imply that is is longer range than the Performance. But that's not true, the...

Interesting how soon you would get a LR? I ordered a LR a few days after you and EDD was December! It's all good though as I'll have my P here in a couple of weeks.

Ya I thought the same thing until I watched multiple Youtube video tests of LR vs P and they both came out to the same range in testing... Then I figured I'd get the performance boost for $2K on the LR, so with the 20" Turbines I had on my LR, I was only down to a 4K difference in cars at that...

Looks like my change to MYP paid off. MYLR ordered July 10th with EDD October. EDD moved to December last week, in which I changed to MYP on Aug 14th. Today I already have a VIN and narrow EDD of Aug 27-Sep 2nd in Atlanta. So looks like if you want a MY now.. definitely change to MYP.

Kinda sucks I let my LR order go 5 weeks without checking my account. If I knew it would be pushed back till December like I knew a few days ago, I would have switched to a P right out of the gate. I could have had a P being delivered very soon...

Laugh; blame Tesla not us. I cannot help it they used bait and switch tactics on my LR. Order with a EDD of October, then five weeks later check order stratus and it says December! Some of us cannot wait half a year for a car, especially when we were on the fence between the two versions anyway...

I originally wanted and ordered the LR because of the taller/better riding suspension. But seeing my EDD pushed back two months to almost 2022 was untenable. Will be interesting to see how quickly I can get a P.

Sounds like an error. I ordered a few days after you and my order said December.

You guys sure you don't keep your place in line? I ordered MY LR on July 10th, web-site said October delivery during order. Logged on yesterday and it had EDD all the way back to late Nov/Mid-Dec, was like screw that and changed to MYP. Today my MYP (that I changed to yesterday) says Estimated...

My early July LR order that originally said October, yesterday switched to end of November/Mid December, like screw that I'm not waiting half a year for a freaking car. Tesla did a total bait-and switch. Switched to a P even though I wasn't looking for the harsher ride.

Wheels.

I ordered LR July 10th with a then October delivery estimate, and then I check today my EDD moved all the way to Late November/Mid December. Screw that! I switched to the Performance model. They are totally screwing the LR customers.

I just changed it to a P. They are totally screwing the LR customers.

Guys, need some input. I ordered a Y long range on July 11th, that had a expected delivery of October. Now it says on the Order page Late November to late DECEMBER! That's basically false advertising. I ordered over a month ago and may have to wait almost till the new year to get my car? How is...

In a later tweet he says the SC network worldwide. Why wouldn't a Rivian be able to charge is he says he's opening it up to other EV's?

This is an epically bad decision. Tesla will regret this. This decision is ONLY a negative for all current Tesla owners AND future Tesla owners. SC network is already unable to keep up with the Y/3's coming onto the road. The SC build out has been way slower than planned. So now Tesla owners...

The amount of energy left over to propel the vehicle with an ICE; even after most of it is wasted in producing heat is still TONS more energy than electric vehicles contain. That's why a semi truck with a 80,000lb GVWR and huge aero drag still gets an average of 6.5 MPG. Electric vehicles due...

What options do you think the CT will have available for it? Interior trim? -cost? Wheels? -cost? Vault/bed slatted/roll-up solar charging cover? -$4,000? ATV? -$10,000?

Real world testing is going to prove me correct. Hell, an advertised 500+ mile range on the CT will be closer to low 400's in real world testing right off the bat. Even less if the CT has any sort of tires that have off-road traction. A tiny little 4,600 lb trailer cut a Model X's range to...

Most people here and in general will seriously over-estimate range towing a trailer with the CT. ESPECIALLY when it's cold outside/you live in Northern Climates. Based on my calculations; my Tri-Motor CT will tow my 10,000 lb 30' Airstream Classic a maximum of ~140 miles at 80F and ~90 miles at...

If you look under the Hummer deposit section, it says that dealers can charge you whatever they want for the truck after you put a deposit down. I'm so sick of this SCAMERICA crap. I'm not putting a deposit down and bet on getting a truck and then have some sleaze bag dealership try and gut me...

Honestly, I would be purchasing the highest end Hummer model if a Tri-Motor CyberTruck didn't exist, But the CT is just a much better value. 500 mile range and stainless body is amazing for the $78K price with FSD.

The tire tread pattern will matter greatly. The truck was shown with off-road tires which will noticeably affect range. To have any off-road capability whatsoever, you can't put skinny hard-compound high efficiency tires on it.

The single motor RWD model is a small market segment (just look at the pre-orders). Tesla isn't going to put their more expensive 200 kWh pack into a single motor vehicle IMO. Virtually everyone who has the money to pony up for the 200 kWh pack isn't going to want just one motor, hence it's not...

Having Tri-motors has absolutely nothing to do with the 500+ mile range. It's because the Tri-Motor has the largest battery pack, speculated at 200-240 kWh.

Some of the RN's don't make sense. Like I ordered within 1 minute of Elon saying "orders open" and I have a higher number than people that ordered half an hour after me according to that spreadsheet. All US orders too. Makes no sense.

Look Elon Must captured Leeloo!

Oh great now we are going to get a neutered smaller pickup because some sedan driving non-pickup morons think the pickup is too big? Ugg I hate social media.

I wish this wasn't an old joke :(

lol those dinky little systems would barely put a dent in charging a 200 kWh CyberTruck. Like filling an Olympic swimming pool with a garden hose. This 1,300 square foot solar install in direct sunlight has about the same wattage as a Tesla 220V/72Amp home charger: And would take about three...

Virtually all truck campers sold today would not fit in the Cybertruck. They would be blocked by the sailplanes. The sides of truck campers go over the sides of the top of pickup beds. You would have to go the custom route, which increases costs 2-3 times. Also, a truck camper wouldn't have...

Tesla went with three motors for the top configuration as it's the entire corporate top tier setup going forward, known as the "Plaid" platform.

That has to be the stupidest thing I've read all month. Ya, electric pickup truck buyers want a 2-seat goofy looking cut off sedan with a 3.5 foot bed and less than 800 lb cargo capacity. Where do you loons come from?