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100% agree. I too have seen so many that claim they can tint or wrap a car but once I put them on a car it takes all of 5mins for me to tell them thanks but no thanks! Personally I find the good ones have two traits over the others. They love working on the hard cars so never shy away from them...

No, and not going to argue over it either even if Lloyds is trying to suck me into it :wink: I would pick XPEL over any other brand including Suntek. I simply answered someones question and based on the data available its a no brainer. - - - Updated - - - Love the stealth! - - - Updated - -...

Yeah, thats beautiful! Nice work.

+1 It can also be repaired. By applying touch up by a skilled detailer it can also be virtually unnoticeable. It gets filled in, sanded down, and polished out. Once done have them apply XPEL so it won't reoccur. If you don't you will have more than one to worry about later. Paint is soft on...

+1 +1 Thats price is for a full car. NWAS being one of those I am sure as they do outstanding work, I have seen it with my own eyes. No way Tesla can match that level of work. I do believe Tesla outsources their installs anyway so they technically offer paint armor but do not perform the work...

Warranty on XPEL is 10 years vs 7 on ClearGuardX. XPEL is proven to be best in class while little or no data exists on the other brand. I can't verify but was told by a very credible source ClearGuard failed (peeled/delaminated) within 3 years of install. Again, can't verify that but I take this...

Tint is not going to shrink once its installed and requires high heat when done anyway. Once heat gunned it will stay right where it is. The gap should be very small, anything over a 1/16 of an inch could be done better. Shaving it would have no gap but on a frameless door that rolls up like the...

Spot on Moe :biggrin:. Never met you but I agree 100% with your assessment. I wish I had your choice of words from the get go and maybe all the back and forth would not have taken place. Keep up the good work as I enjoy seeing it!

Yeah, i use a waterless car wash on the outside with spray way glass cleaner on the windows. I also wrap the interior in plastic so no water gets on them. Most shops I work for do not do that level of work. You can browse yelp reviews all day long and find people complaining about that kind of...

The ripples and smears are just the slip solution (Dish soap and water) used to install the film. Leave it outside for day and you should see them go away. You will notice they are less noticeable around the edges of the windows and rubber seal as those should be heat gunned so drier than the...

Tyler, I went back through some of your posts as I want to make sure I am seeing my posts from your perspective. I am a bit OCD at times so forgive me, I just wanted to make sure I was not in the wrong or could not see my behavior as I will man up and correct that if I did so. I am also not...

Not sure where I demanded anything I simply said they should back those numbers up. The discussion is about tinting a Model S not me, but its apparent a few of you even when asking me questions if you don't like the answers I provide even though they are 100% civil you get hostile. I simply...

I just reread my last posting and I don't see anything as to what your stating. I spoke subjectively and with truth so no need to get all internet hurt for no reason. Isn't a forum all about discussion? Where everyone can share their opinions even if they don't share your view? I certainly never...

I am not going to get all deep into pricing as that is a touchy subject for tint shops so don't want to offend others. Its a highly guarded trade secret and all and you don't know the handshake :biggrin:. Even in the back room on the tint forums nobody talks pricing, never understood why...

Not sure how you read that as defensive or how I am promoting any other specific product? I have many brands I would use on my own car I feel are great films, I don't carry all of them either. I am American through and through and will only use products from America whenever possible, proud to...

Sorry misread that as title of thread was about windshield. According to the DMV the following applies which from what I have understood as the material (film) has to be 88% (Air Blue is 78%) and combined with the glass (glazing) can be as low as 70% if its an AS-14 glazing. Just like every...

CTX is the LLumar brand. If you have Formula One and the ceramic then its the Pinnacle line. Its a great film as well. Just had a car with Formula One in here that had it on the rear window after 17 years! No bubbling or peeling but it was starting to distort a bit. I would expect after 17 years...

Not sure where you heard Air blue is legal as its not in Cali. I too have Air Blue on my windshield but don't be fooled that its legal. Its light enough you should be able to get away with it though. Actually very few states have anything more than a strip legal on the front windshield...

I have installed many cars with this film as well as many other brands including the mentioned 3M. ATC is the dyed film and 35% will not make it too dark, it will give it a nice elegant look and does not have that blue hue to it like 3M. ATR is the metalized film and CTX is the ceramic line for...

I run the Visible Tesla application on OSX. I keep it running all the time (Actually have it installed on an OSX server). It data logs everything and I can go pick any day and it will have all its data, including speed, GPS location on the map and all. I keep this data just in case one of those...

Wow, glad I found this thread as I too thought a fan went bad. I was out the other day and it was so loud it was drowning out huge diesels sitting next to me at a light. I am going to schedule a SC visit to get the TSB applied and a rattle I have in the A pillar or pano that is driving me nuts.

I have zero agenda here lloyds and clearly stated its my opinion as a disclaimer. I don't think I was negative from the start, just pointing out to those following this thread that it may not be all that it appears to be and a few agreed with me, some also being experts in my industry. I...

Yes, and other film manufactures I have spoken to also agree with all the red flags. Myself and another reputable tinter on these forums have already pointed these things out. We are not here to flame another product, just offering advice and hoping others due more due diligence as reading a...

I just installed Air Blue 80 on my front windshield. I wear polarized Oakleys, no rainbow effect for me and the clarity is outstanding. No orange peel at all.

I am about to wrap my S. I can't wait to debadge as I am sick of messing up my drying towels on the Models S and 85 badges. I will wrap and replace the T though. Sharp ride flodrab! I am about to do something very similar to mine so I have to say you have great taste!

Looks great! Moe does some really nice work from what I have seen. I also install in this manner so thats coming from someone that knows the in and outs of this type of work. Not all do the level of work to such detail by disassembling to provide that seamless look. My hats off to Moe for doing...

Yep. agreed. Long as I don't have to go to a gas station ever again I can take that kind of degradation!

lloyds, Happy to hear your happy with it as thats what truly counts. Curious to what was on your Beemer? Kind of hard to compare a rare car with a film company as thats a pretty far stretch. McLaren is not obtainable for most so no need for more than 2 dealers in this state. I think its...

Fair enough and appreciate your view. I reiterate my point if your happy with your purchase then thats all that counts! I agree and would love to see CR review them but also someone that specializes in testing film. This is what LLumar and 3m for instance do. I also agree they have every right...

For sure skeptical as I am always with bold claims. Appreciate your response though. I can almost guess with 99% you went to Northwest ;). Good hands there for sure as they do it right for sure! Glad your happy with it as that is the most important thing. Numbers they claim though still don't...

I have followed this thread for some time now. I tried really hard to stay away from it. After the unwarranted beating Moe took when he should not have I thought better but I just can't take it any longer :D. My skin is thick so I can take it if you don't agree, not everyone will and thats fine...