I recall reading the P85+ had a $6500 upgraded suspension option.
Is there any evidence the P85D has better suspension (coil or air) over the S70/85D?
Is there any evidence the P85D has better suspension (coil or air) over the S70/85D?
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I don't think so. Given what the 70D offers, I wonder why I paid an extra 30k for the P85D. Seems to be by and large the same.
Given the updates to the 85D I think the extra money for the P85D was wasted. Oh wellI agree that the value proposition for the 85D and P85D hasn't been particularly compelling since the introduction of the 70D. I also think that many P85D owners may have opted for the 85D knowing what they know today, and could have saved a bundle in the process.
Given the updates to the 85D I think the extra money for the P85D was wasted. Oh well
I guess my post didn't make that clear enough. I was talking about MY perspective, i.e. the fact that I bought a P85D and by now I realize I would be just as happy with an 85D (and an extra $20k in my pocket).I guess that depends on your perspective. There's no way an 85D could have hung with the supercars the way my P85D did, since most of them have low 3 second 0-60 times.
To put it in BMW terms, the 550i is pretty fast. But the M5 is faster, and costs more.
I guess my post didn't make that clear enough. I was talking about MY perspective, i.e. the fact that I bought a P85D and by now I realize I would be just as happy with an 85D (and an extra $20k in my pocket).
To quote Shakespeare... "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"Not that I'm thinking of upgrading any time soon, but I also do not see the value proposition over the regular 85D which is still pretty peppy and powerful -- 422 hp -- MORE than my BMW e39 M5. The specs on the 85D are 4.4secs 0-60. My 5-liter, V8 M5 does 4.8 to 5 seconds 0-60 and "only" has 400HP (and gets ~12mpg). So for me, while I love my P85+, if I ever were to upgrade, I'd save the cash and just do the 85D and spend the money on some extras.
And now that they came out with the new blue which I always wanted from the start, if I were to upgrade (which I'm not), I would just sit tight for a couple more years until they come out with a larger battery pack and whatever other features they add between now and then. I think a Model S 100D or 110D (non "P") would be killer with the added range and performance. In the mean time, I'm enjoying the crap out of my P85+.
Given how much stiffer my P85D is versus my old P85, I'd be shocked if they applied the +/P85D suspension across the line. Too much teeth rattling for the comfort cruising crowd.
Where does one find a sway bar? What do they do?Absolutely agree. One way to determine this would be for someone with an 85D to measure the size of their sway bars and compare that to the size of the sway bars in the P85D chassis that is on display at many Tesla stores. The sway bars were upsized when the P+ suspension was introduced.
Anyone have any specific info or evidence on the SUSPENSION? And specifically the differences between models? The website and window stickers used to say that the P+ and then the P85D had a performance suspension, but the P85D website info and sticker no longer include that language. Comments about overall value and acceleration (ie anything other than suspension) are invited in other threads.
Where does one find a sway bar? What do they do?