....the soccer moms of X buyers,....
Well I love soccer but I'm not, and never will be, a 'mom'....isn't it about time everyone stopped using this outdated cliche?
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....the soccer moms of X buyers,....
Well I love soccer but I'm not, and never will be, a 'mom'....isn't it about time everyone stopped using this outdated cliche?
No kidding. It's like we're stuck in some bad 70s sitcom.
The funny thing (to me) I've never heard women use that term. I think it was a byproduct of some unaware advertising team, trying to describe a segment of the population. And failing.
No kidding. It's like we're stuck in some bad 70s sitcom.
The funny thing (to me) I've never heard women use that term. I think it was a byproduct of some unaware advertising team, trying to describe a segment of the population. And failing.
......I am not American and have seen the word "soccer mom" and more northern "hockey mom" used in many an American news and reality TV - mostly by proud "soccer moms" themselves. It seems like an honor badge, even. I doubt all those uses have been scripted....
Don't believe everything you see on TV...and I suggest we leave this discussion and go back to the topic at hand.
No kidding. It's like we're stuck in some bad 70s sitcom.
The funny thing (to me) I've never heard women use that term. I think it was a byproduct of some unaware advertising team, trying to describe a segment of the population. And failing.
Just to clarify, I think I'm a critical watcher of the media. Foreign or domestic. I think the Wikipedia page on soccer moms is telling too.
The phrase has taken on a negative aspect.
...] Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin, the U.S. Republican vice-presidential candidate in 2008, described herself as a hockey mom as far back as her 2006 gubernatorial race. /.../ In her speech at the 2008 Republican National Convention and in stump speeches following the convention, she joked that the only difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull was lipstick, /.../ suggesting that hockey moms are "tough". /.../ "Hockey partisans" on the internet claim that hockey moms are "a bit more intense than their soccer counterparts, both in terms of the commitments they make to the sport and the intensity with which they cheer their kids." [My underline and italic.]
Source: Soccer mom/Hockey mom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well I love soccer but I'm not, and never will be, a 'mom'....isn't it about time everyone stopped using this outdated cliche?
I'm not sure what this is about, Nigel. What are your feelings with regard to, inter alia, "Redneck"? "Tree hugger"?
Let me chime in here ... redneck, soccer mom, etc. all have legitimate origins. No argument. But those terms have also taken on a negative connotation. Rob, it's one thing for you to call yourself a redneck. But if I said, 'They're just a bunch of rednecks' vs. 'They're just a bunch of brilliant engineers', which one would be negative to you? Right. It's a putdown. Same with soccer moms, etc.
Case in point, I joke and say I'm a legitimate bastard. I am! The term 'bastard' accurately describes the circumstances of my birth. But does it have a negative connotation? Sure. If any of you called an illegitimate child a bastard, it would not be meant as a compliment.
So while we can all cry 'oh hey, here is where it came from', it doesn't change the fact that these terms have gone negative. I completely agree with Nigel. My two cents.
nigel requests that we stay on topic. so let's do that, shall we?
the topic is, isn't it time we stop using this outdated idiom?
and i think we have clearly shown it's not outdated.
and that there are plenty of examples in this thread of 'negative idioms' that people dont seem to get up in arms about.
yet 'soccer mom' deserves special treatment?....i wonder why...
Bonnie - I believe that the three terms now in discussion ALL were created with the express intention of providing a negative connotation. That is specifically different from the word bastard and its history.
If I were to be overly-sensitive to indiscriminate use of words or terms because of their origin, then, as a southpaw, I would be as neurotic as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. Ten seconds of scribbles brings these examples with all their concealed or blatant prejudices:
Off-handed remark
Sinister
Correct
Gauche
Rectitude
Dextrous
Right
Left-handed compliment
Maladroit
Having two left feet
By the way, "legitimate bastard" is quite clever. Nice turn of phrase!
Happy New Year, all.