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I suspect I'm missing something, but isn't Navigate on Autopilot being used in that photo, rather than FSD?

Another option might be to make the additional cameras viewable, though it might be difficult for the driver to manage the additional information in real time. The visualization can combine all of the cameras into one easy to read image, but I think the reliability of the visualization is still...

On the tangent topic of superhuman performance, I was thinking about how nice it would be for the car to have front bumper cameras for situations where there is limited cross traffic visibility. For example this scenario where Chuck gets stuck @7:15. The catch 22 is that for an L2 system...

True. And likewise I imagine they exclude clips that are not necessarily catastrophic but less than ideal. For example a driver passing up a safe opportunity to advance through an intersection. I'm sure they've closely evaluated any clip that made it into the training set. Though they probably...

Does v12 work this way? Before E2E I might expect FSD to make explicit trajectory calculations, but does v12 work this way? Also, regarding the processing of multiple camera feeds at the same. If the training is taken from human driving examples, and humans cannot see in all directions...

Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for. The article mentions they had to modify the software to get around the geo-restriction. Hard to know if it followed the rules of traffic perfectly but it seemed to run through the city smoothly. I imagine it's on par with a foreigner renting a car...

What's interesting about Chuck's turn is that it's an uncommon traffic pattern; at least I've never really seen it in my travels. It's apparent the developers payed special attention to this turn for whatever reason. The visualization highlights the medium (is that what it's called?) in light...

Interesting. Would love to see a brave Youtuber test out v12 outside of the designated regions. At least in a country with right-hand traffic so it stands a chance.😅

Hypothetical question: What would happen if you tried to engage FSD in an area where it is not supported, e.g. if you drove it to Mexico or shipped it overseas? Are there geo-restriction checks in place?

Seems like the video bitrate is throttled in response to latency. Video games are already low throughput but struggle with latency. Not sure how many milliseconds of delay is acceptable for remote driving. They also mention a Minimal Risk Maneuver to safely guide the car when there is a...

I'm also having trouble imagining how you could safely drive a car remotely. Anyone who's played a video game over the internet knows input lag is not your friend.

That which does not kill us makes us stronger. Too bad I didn't get to see before 11.4.9. Rolling stops and Current Speed = Max Speed, those were the days of high adventure.

Next week... whenever that is

Lol. I had you wrong, Tester. You're a decent guy.

I get that you find it useful. But why would you buy FSD only to end up using cruise control? If you bought a computer but all you use it for is to make grocery lists, does that make the computer useful to you? I suppose so. But why not just buy a pen and paper?

You're suggesting the value of cruise control is that it spares you the physical fatigue of operating the pedal? But if you're looking for relief while driving, you are probably taking a long highway trip, in which case FSD is a bit overkill compared to any other cruise control +/- lane...

Just wanted to add to this. Even though I am here primarily to learn, I feel it's selfish and cold to come to a forum purely to ask questions and give nothing in return. That is why I try to offer information when I have any, or at least offer an opinion when I feel informed enough. Same is true...

No high horse here, sir. When there is something I don't know about I am humble and ask questions, I'm sure you've seen that. I don't have as many miles as most on here but I've also been consuming FSD information voraciously and using FSD extensively.

Every forum has the circle jerk old guard that doesn't like to see new members. I'm a bit surprised even with the more mature crowd we have here this still holds true. Ironic you are accusing me of being a troll when the bulk of your comments on here are in fact just that.

Still waiting for an opportunity to try it on a really long trip. I'm planning on a trip to Canada soon and am also curious how FSD will operate there.

Who in this thread is arguing that it's simple or unimpressive for a computer to drive a car? Trying to argue that physically turning a steering is difficult for a human being in a million words makes you look like a troll or a lunatic.

Could it be slowing down in response to the flashing yellow lights in general rather than the active school zone sign specifically? Similar to how it slows down for flashing lights at a fire station?

My point when I posed the question "why use FSD if you need to monitor it anyway" is that there is more value in FSD than just its utility. It has entertainment value as well, which is a big part of why I use it, and why I was against eliminating left turns several pages ago. That's not to say I...

Before I knew about the scrollwheel method, I was using the torque method. And I found it required less torque to clear the nags after logging several miles with FSD, and the nags became MUCH less frequent as well.

That's what I meant. The more you use it, the less harsh the nags are. At least compared to when you are new to FSD.

Interesting. Btw I meant when FSD is new to your account, not when you first engage it for the trip. Might've been ambiguous.

Haven't seen this mentioned but are the nags not more frequent and harder to clear when you first start using FSD?

Has FSD acutally been that good on the highway? Until recently (before v12), phantom braking was a huge problem. Currently on "v12 highways" you have the ridiculous lane wobble issue. Even on v11 highways, I had to disengage recently because it was driving straight into a concrete median while...

I keep my arms and foot relaxed unless I'm approaching a situation I've deemed risky, as you described. Though I acknowledge that it's not exactly proper and my chances of reacting to an emergency that I did not anticipate are diminished.

Is this a long and pretentious way of saying turning a steering wheel is mentally taxing? I honestly can't tell. Ha.

Seems hard to believe that even with heavy traffic it's slower than 3 right turns, but I'm willing to believe UPS's research.

Unless I'm traveling through a complex and congested city like Manhattan, making a difficult left turn, or sitting still for more than an hour, I don't find driving to be stressful or exhausting. None of those situations does FSD currently make better for me.

If you're supervising then presumably you are watching the surroundings as well. Same with navigation. You need to pay attention to how the car is following navigation. Because if it is making a mistake, you need to anticipate and observe how it might try to correct itself. E.g. if it picks a...

I responded to this in my previous post.

Not really relevant the point I was making. But substitute back seat with front seat, or L3+ with L4+. I was describing a scenario where you would be paying less attention to the road. Most of the work of driving is deciding what to do. Moving the pedals and steering wheel is trivial and...

Since you are in this thread, I presume you use or have used FSD at some point. Knowing that you need to monitor the car's driving at all times, what is your purpose for using it?

Regarding the cameras, what would cause them to lose calibration in the first place? Getting jarred out of place while driving?

If it's a true L3+ system and I can use my laptop in the backseat without ever looking at the road, I probably wouldn't care. Especially if it's equal to or greater than the left turn approach in terms of time and fuel as that UPS article indicates. But FSD currently has not and may never reach...

It's awkward sometimes when the other driver looks to you for confirmation and you're not sure if you should wave them on, since you're not sure if FSD will actually stay in place. 😅

A commenter on one of Chuck's Youtube videos was pulled over for speeding while he was using FSD. He explained to the cop that he was using the self driving feature of his car and the cop ended up letting him off with a warning. I think he was doing 40 in a 30. I disengage if I happen to notice...

I don't think there's anything profound, technically impressive, or otherwise appealing about substituting a left turn with 3 right turns. I want to see them solve the problem that was posed, not solve an easier problem instead.

Useless is a harsh word, but from a utility point of view, with autonomous driving it's really all or nothing. If it has an even modest chance of making a critical mistake, that means the rider must be engaged in the driving process, and thus cannot use that time to be productive. From a tech...

It's human nature. It's not changing anytime soon and it needs to be factored in. Besides, from a tech point of view, I want the car to drive efficiently and not pass up on perfectly safe opportunities to advance. Whether or not they are disengagement/intervention worthy, they are still mistakes.

I'm sure you've been frustrated getting stuck behind a slow driver before. How would you feel if every other car on the road was driving through intersections the way FSD currently does? It's NOT acceptable and not human-like either. I would like to blend in with the rest of traffic, not be a...

There's just not a lot of excitement over the idea of autonomous cars to begin with. Most people are not tech enthusiasts. They want comfortable cars or cars that can go fast and make sounds. Just from reading this thread it's evident that the majority of FSD subscribers/purchasers are indeed...

I don't think it would be 99% but it would be over 50%. Depends on the route of course. There are a couple of stops signs I frequent that lead into highway traffic where the car simply will not move because of continuous traffic flowing at highway speed. The car will not use the shoulder lane as...

I didn't dislike his post. Though I disagree with blocking someone because you disagree with them.

Most common and problematic issues with v12 for me are Wobble when attempting a lane change (separate from the lane selection issue). Confuses surrounding drivers and sometimes conditions change before it can safely complete the lane change. Sometimes gives up on the lane change entirely. I...

@17:55 his dad even says "It's not like it's self driving, you're testing lane assist as if it's FSD". I believe the Mercedes L3 system is geo-fenced by GPS. Omar the Tesla shill was merely "testing" the lane keep + adaptive cruise control features, while allowing us to believe it's the L3...

I thought you meant the video itself was a prolonged advertisement for Tesla stocks, which it is.