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I ordered it at $12K in the hope that 10 years from now it will be much improved and I will not be. I'll be 84 years old.Yup, I agree.
It seems logical that the less interventions that are required, the less prepared the human component will be to make them.
If it ends up in a situation where your commute is done fully autonomously, and only exceptional events cause it to require intervention, then it follows that people will naturally become more and more complacent, and "tune out" of the experience of travelling in a car entirely. The driver will effectively become a passenger in terms of attitude.
This will be compounded further still by a desire by some, possibly many, to explicitly opt out of driving and do something else instead. They might try and sit in the passenger seat and put something on the drivers seat to trick the car into thinking someone is there, or they might try and read a book, or be totally engrossed in their phone, not even watching the road. I would hope the cabin camera stops all of that, but we'll see.
So yeah, I'm in agreement that there will be an inflection point at which the tech is good enough that people get complacent, but not good enough to allow it.
Right. It's hard to tell whether the proportion of cyclists who jump red lights is lower or higher than the proportion of drivers that break the speed limit. It's quite easy to convince yourself that in both cases it's the majority, but I'm not sure that's true.Some cyclists break the rules, most do not. Some car drivers break the rules, most do not.
Weirdly I didn't get a notification for this tag but yeah, car works completely fine and as expected without the ECE restrictions. If it wasn't for the ECE regulations, our cars would be identical to the Australian ones (RHD & not bound by UNECE so unrestricted).I wish there were some option to opt out of UNECE regs. Bring on some personal responsibility and accountability!
There's a guy on here @joexn - who had/has access to a car that has either been rooted, or is "in testing" over here, and it can be summoned from across a car park like in the States, perfectly fine.
If my car wasn't under warranty I'd be seriously interested in the possibility of modifying the "ece_restrictions" and "eu_vehicle" flags in the configuration that basically lock our cars so badly down. Obviously it wouldn't mean we'd get FSD beta, but even so.
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No doubt it'd be farmed out to whichever Tory donor puts enough in the coffers and be years late.“digitise local regulations to a central platform” now that sounds sensible. No doubt we’ll make a hash of it. Can we have a central portal for all of the road charging schemes toll etc too.
Sounds like bad news for TeslaThis reached the Kings Speech today.
The most notable points:
- Implementation of "Level 4 autonomy on UK roads"
- Implements previous four-year review of self driving legislation by law commission
- Liability will be on the company rather than the user/driver when self driving
- Failure will result in fines, requirements to take corrective action, and suspension of operation. Criminal offences will apply in serious cases.
- Companies will have to reach strict safety requirements before being authorised
- Only once met and can follow traffic rules without the need for human monitoring or control will vehicles be classed as self driving
- Only vehicles that reach the above standards will be allowed to be marketed as "self driving"
- Local Authorities to digitise local regulations to a central platform to give real time information on road closures and parking bays, creating a digital map of the road network to be fed back to self-driving vehicles.
Driverless cars move closer to reality in King’s Speech | RAC Drive
The future of driving in the UK was the highlight of today’s King’s Speech, where plans for an Automated Vehicles Bill was announced.www.rac.co.ukGovernment announces self-driving legislation in King’s Speech
An Automated Vehicles Bill has been announced in the King’s Speech, one of 21 Bills which the Government says will be its priority over the coming year or so.www.fleetnews.co.ukDriverless buses and delivery vehicles to get green light
Buses, grocery deliveries and farm machinery will be operating autonomously by the end of the decade under new legislation brought forward today. Rishi Sunak will use the King’s Speech to pave the way for the introduction of “level four” fully-autonomous vehicles on the roads.Such vehicles do not rewww.thetimes.co.uk
Of course, none of the current Tesla implementations are L2. They’re alll just driver assistance. I.e we’re liable.* Basic Autopilot
* Highway Autopilot
* City Streets Autopilot ?
Of course, I couldn't find any mention of running L2 automation on city streets in any of the documents. I assume that'd be covered under existing laws and regulations regarding liability, driving offences or marketing.
All Tesla stuff is L2, I think you’ve just got the numbering wrong as your description is right.Of course, none of the current Tesla implementations are L2. They’re alll just driver assistance. I.e we’re liable.
As per the consultation the only purpose in GB type approval was to reject Euro 6e because our government doesn't want stricter emission and safety standards. While this is ludicrous in itself, at least manufacturers will still have to build to that standard to sell in the EU so it's likely to make no difference to us, other than perhaps software changes. Divergence is likely to increase costs further for UK customers." the whole vehicle will need to receive the new GB whole vehicle approval that has replaced EU whole vehicle approval for most motor vehicles."