Luisito
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Wow, three times! This is costing Tesla and us consumers. They need to get this fixed asap!!!
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POLL: vibration felt when slightly accelerating refresh Mode S Plaid or LR
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n2mb_racing
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Yeah, they didn't really know how to fix it last year. Hopefully by now they have figured it out. I think communication between the service centers and engineering is not great.
WilliamG
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There does seem to be some variance between the Plaids. Every single one I've driven has the vibration to some degree. A Turo rental 2021 Plaid I had in California was the most subtle, and that had many thousands of miles on it. My 2021 didn't develop the vibration until 1500 miles, and I knew what to look for and had experienced it with @jebinc 's car, and he also noted mine did not have the vibration, initially. Ironically, my vibration developed while I was on the way home from hanging out with @jebinc , so I figured he sabotaged my car with his mind.
I've driven a few others, and they all have it, of course. My current 2022 Plaid vibrated from new, straight away, no break in. Initially running the car in Medium suspension height reduced the vibration, and now it only increases the vibration. Wild. Even in Low I can feel the vibration from around 31mph, and I'm at 3200 miles now. After using some lowering links on the front for a small reduction in ride height, the vibration is somewhat reduced, which is a relief. I no longer feel the vibration in the low 30s, and now only feel it around 40-50. So it's clear there's some variance between builds.
Of course, if Tesla were to reach out and use my stupid car as a 2022 patient zero, they could figure this out in no time, but I suspect they:
1.) Don't know, don't care, - at least not at a high level.
2.) Know, but still don't care, as this is a low volume vehicle.
3.) Know, but are sweeping it under the rug as it would involve a lot of annoyed customers if they just blanket admitted to the issue. I guess that ties into the prior point of knowing, but not caring.
For the record, not a single passenger has ever, ever complained about feeling the vibration when I'm driving, even if I'm driving constantly around 40-50. Not. A. Single. Passenger.
Meh. Hopefully @n2mb_racing continues to get good results from his "engineering sample," but I'm still so dubious. Doesn't make sense they'd be putting an engineering sample on his car. That testing could have been done already...
n2mb_racing
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I've driven two '22 LR model S that don't have the vibration. One had 4k miles, the other 13k.There does seem to be some variance between the Plaids. Every single one I've driven has the vibration to some degree. A Turo rental 2021 Plaid I had in California was the most subtle, and that had many thousands of miles on it. My 2021 didn't develop the vibration until 1500 miles, and I knew what to look for and had experienced it with @jebinc 's car, and he also noted mine did not have the vibration, initially. Ironically, my vibration developed while I was on the way home from hanging out with @jebinc , so I figured he sabotaged my car with his mind.
I've driven a few others, and they all have it, of course. My current 2022 Plaid vibrated from new, straight away, no break in. Initially running the car in Medium suspension height reduced the vibration, and now it only increases the vibration. Wild. Even in Low I can feel the vibration from around 31mph, and I'm at 3200 miles now. After using some lowering links on the front for a small reduction in ride height, the vibration is somewhat reduced, which is a relief. I no longer feel the vibration in the low 30s, and now only feel it around 40-50. So it's clear there's some variance between builds.
Of course, if Tesla were to reach out and use my stupid car as a 2022 patient zero, they could figure this out in no time, but I suspect they:
1.) Don't know, don't care, - at least not at a high level.
2.) Know, but still don't care, as this is a low volume vehicle.
3.) Know, but are sweeping it under the rug as it would involve a lot of annoyed customers if they just blanket admitted to the issue. I guess that ties into the prior point of knowing, but not caring.
For the record, not a single passenger has ever, ever complained about feeling the vibration when I'm driving, even if I'm driving constantly around 40-50. Not. A. Single. Passenger.
Meh. Hopefully @n2mb_racing continues to get good results from his "engineering sample," but I'm still so dubious. Doesn't make sense they'd be putting an engineering sample on his car. That testing could have been done already...
jebinc
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jebinc
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Yeah, they are really giving him the half-shaft!
Just checking in. Bought a used '21 Plaid with 30k miles and definitely have the 40-50 mph shimmy....
And the 21 inch tire wear.
That's probably the main reasons most used Refresh's are put up for sale so early in their life. I think you're pretty much guaranteed to have these problems if you buy a used one, and 50/50 if you buy a new one.
jebinc
Well-Known Member
I would say closer to 100% either way. Few report no vibration. Definitely more than 50% (new or used).
TWSSI started beating on the car this morning. No vibrations so far... The new half shafts might be the cure...
I would be curious to see when they roll the part number officially. Going to a SC now to tell them to get an Engineering sample of the same part number you can imagine how that will go.
Good to hear you are having good results now, but would like to get your feedback a couple thousand miles later.
n2mb_racing
Active Member
Agreed. I'll post up each week as I get more miles on it.
FYI.. Just saw this on the Service Manual Release notes for this week: (EDIT: I didn't realize it was just an update to an already developed procedure).
Halfshaft replacement..
Wonder when this was developed, just got my March MSP.. only had it a week, so too many new things to look out for, not sure if I've really had any vibrations or not..
This is for 2021+ Model S
Halfshaft replacement..
Wonder when this was developed, just got my March MSP.. only had it a week, so too many new things to look out for, not sure if I've really had any vibrations or not..
This is for 2021+ Model S
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So before, they weren’t doing a test drive after changing out a major driveline component? Sounds about right for Tesla.
Ok Jeb/william let’s do this. I have a 2022 msp 14000 miles on it, I have put 4000 on it in 40 days. The only vibration I get is the first drive from 20 mph to about 45 and it only last about 2 miles. I have a set of all season tires and another set of summer’s both (19). The all season tires never fully hook up.
the other vibration is during hard acceleration, almost like a traction clicking limit of differential braking having a little work to do to keep the front straight.
After tires are warm it’s smooth as my other two teslas. Model 3 performance. I would guess the front tires are loosing a little traction causing vibrations. I can minimize the clicking or vibration by using sport and having warmer tires and good concrete to launch. Asphalt is not the best surface to launch the Plaid where I live. Temps when cooler show this vibrations more.
the other vibration is during hard acceleration, almost like a traction clicking limit of differential braking having a little work to do to keep the front straight.
After tires are warm it’s smooth as my other two teslas. Model 3 performance. I would guess the front tires are loosing a little traction causing vibrations. I can minimize the clicking or vibration by using sport and having warmer tires and good concrete to launch. Asphalt is not the best surface to launch the Plaid where I live. Temps when cooler show this vibrations more.
darstar007
Member
Yup I definitely have noticed this. Thought it was the pavement. My ride height is always on Medium.
Check your ride height at freeway speeds. Mine automatically puts it in low every time, so you are probably riding in low without knowing it.
My theory is sport keeps the front from lifting under hard acceleration causing traction loss on the front wheels. ( I said theory) this may well be a whole different subject.
if so my 14000 mile plaid runs dead smooth not counting first drive vibrations.
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