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Love to see that rationalised by a judge
Artificially holding the Model P3 back isn't going to push anyone who wanted a competent track car to the Model S./QUOTE]
Just the RWD that's out now can hit 60 in 4.6-4.7 on a good day... adding AWD should shave 0.2 seconds off that. I'm sure P will push it into low to mid 3s.I predict that you will all be disappointed.
Me too, a long, long time ago in a place far, far away. I won. Mostly because the judge did not think a 427SC could do 140mph on the Cross Bronx.The judge listens to prosecution first. The cop says you were street racing. You can cross. Now you can defend yourself. You say you weren't. The prosecution won't even bother with cross. Guilt or innocence doesn't come into play.
I have the T-Shirt.
I think the percentage of people buying a Performance Model 3 or Model S for the purpose of putting it on the track is minuscule in the grand scheme of the things. I think less than 10% of customers will be disappointed with acceleration regardless of what it ends up being. Functional every day acceleration will be light years ahead of 99% of anything on the road. Just my $.02 of course.
Dan
Is there a link? Not sure how I missed that.Musk already admitted it.
Just the RWD that's out now can hit 60 in 4.6-4.7 on a good day... adding AWD should shave 0.2 seconds off that. I'm sure P will push it into low to mid 3s.
Cost? I'm guessing that like the S, it adds $30k to the AWD version (which should be $54k: $49k + $5k for AWD), so $84k for the P
I'm interested in a P3D as a track car. I would like to see the acceleration as fast as possible and some seats with bolsters. Otherwise, keep the cost as low as possible because everything else can be upgraded aftermarket. Even higher quality than what Tesla would provide.
They are...it's called the Generation 2 Roadster.Tesla should make the P3D with the faster acceleration and then create a P3D CP (Competition Package) to focus as a track car with an insane price tag (north of the P100D price). Unfortunately, they have limited resources at the time so it's doubtful they will do that - to take from an old saying - Tesla doesn't need to win on Sunday to sell on Monday!
They are...it's called the Generation 2 Roadster.
Dan
Tesla doesn't know how to make track cars. And personally I don't want them to start. The drivetrain is the one thing that is not easily modifiable so I would like to see them max it. Otherwise, let others who specialize in performance tune it. You'll end up with high quality and for a lower cost.Tesla should make the P3D with the faster acceleration and then create a P3D CP (Competition Package) to focus as a track car with an insane price tag (north of the P100D price). Unfortunately, they have limited resources at the time so it's doubtful they will do that - to take from an old saying - Tesla doesn't need to win on Sunday to sell on Monday!
Sure the cells are more advanced, however the power levels stated are the power levels stated a 75Kwh battery is a 75Kwh battery...no matter if its the Model S version or the Model 3 version.
All that means is that the Model 3 is using fewer cells than the Model S to equal the same amount of power. Now....the motors. Are the motors in the model 3 the same as the model S.....or are they smaller?
75kWh is not a "power level", and a 75kWh battery is not a 75kWh battery. kWh is an energy measure and has very little to do with the power output capability of the pack. The Watt is a measure of power, not the Watt hour. Tesla talked about the tradeoff's in the last conference call. It's easy to have a battery that can charge / discharge at 350kW's but it would have a low energy density, meaning it would be heavy for the same pack energy level. So a 75kWh battery that can discharge at 350kW's would weigh significantly more than at 75kWh battery that can discharge at 1/2 the rate.
We don't yet know the C ratings of the 2170's used in the 3. They could be more or less than the Model S.. I suspect that they are less and Tesla made the trade for capacity over maximum discharge rate.
-Jim
Unless Tesla chooses to be honest and say that the 3 will always be slower than the S for reasons of pure PROFIT, it'll be hard for them to explain why a car 1000 pounds lighter isn't as fast in 0-60 or 1/4 mile. It'll be obvious that they are holding it back to get you to buy a more profitable car.
The Model 3 P75D Ludicrous should be smoking M5's, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and Porsches left and right.