Israel/Hamas conflict

X Fan · Nov 29, 2023

Headline showcases exactly how i thought this would play out. This Administrarion, geez:

Washington warns Israel against renewed Gaza offensive

The message comes as Israel threatens to hit southern Gaza with ‘the same amount of power and more’

www.telegraph.co.uk

Bouba · Nov 29, 2023

X Fan said:
Headline showcases exactly how i thought this would play out. This Administrarion, geez:

Washington warns Israel against renewed Gaza offensive

The message comes as Israel threatens to hit southern Gaza with ‘the same amount of power and more’

www.telegraph.co.uk

It’s a delicate situation but if the Israeli War Cabinet decides to unleash hell on southern Gaza then it will
The American Administration has to make the right noises…like any democracy it has to play to several audiences at once…but at the same time, if it tells Israel to stop and it does, then the US will be accused of controlling Israel and the Administration will have to face criticism that it didn’t stop them earlier. It’s one of those situations no one wants to be in but is…all that really matters is what is said between countries when the cameras are off

SmokyPeat · Nov 29, 2023

I wouldn't take the words of one official beneath the president as perfectly respresenting the position of the entire administration. The Israelis are well aware that they will have to alter their military tactics against Hamas in southern Gaza.

Jigglypuff · Nov 30, 2023

Hamas claims Israel refusing to accept bodies of Bibas family

Yarden, 34, was seen distraught and weeping as he said: 'Bibi (Netanyahu) your airstrike took away my beloved family, now do what you can to bring them home so they can be buried at home

www.dailymail.co.uk

indysurfer · Nov 30, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1730255552738201854

A new survey suggests TikTok is a meaningful driver of a surge in antisemitism. #TikToxicSpending at least 30 minutes a day on TikTok increases the chances a respondent holds antisemitic or anti-Israel views by 17% (compared with 6% for Instagram and 2% for X).

https://twitter.com/antgoldbloom/status/1730255552738201854/photo/1

madodel · Nov 30, 2023

Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago

Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show. But Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.

The approximately 40-page document, which the Israeli authorities code-named “Jericho Wall,” outlined, point by point, exactly the kind of devastating invasion that led to the deaths of about 1,200 people.

Jigglypuff · Nov 30, 2023

madodel said:
Israel Knew Hamas’s Attack Plan More Than a Year Ago

Israel was clearly wrong, of course. However, Hamas has many aspirational plans. I went to a banquet maybe 15 years ago where a bunch of leftists discussed and raised funds for buying a STOL to make deliveries into Gaza.

Jigglypuff · Dec 1, 2023

Outrage as UN-Palestinian exhibition uses murdered Israeli child's image as a Palestinian civilian casualty

The U.N. office in Geneva takes down photos of Israeli children included in a pro-Palestinian exhibit; officials say they do not know who posted the "unofficial" pictures.

news.yahoo.com

"The United Nations office in Geneva removed multiple photos from a pro-Palestinian exhibit after several critics, including the Israeli mission, noted that dead Israeli children had been included."

I wonder why Jews don't trust the UN.

SmokyPeat · Dec 1, 2023

At least one of the released Israeli hostages was held captive by an UNRWA teacher in Gaza. Another by a pediatrician. Boggles the mind.

Jigglypuff · Dec 1, 2023

SmokyPeat said:
At least one of the released Israeli hostages was held captive by an UNRWA teacher in Gaza. Another by a pediatrician. Boggles the mind.

No surprise here. UNWRA exists to maintain Palestinian victimhood, and Hamas exists to feed off that victimhood. Two sides of a coin.

Skipdd · Dec 1, 2023

I thought this was pretty interesting. IDF publishing a colored grid map showing safe and unsafe areas to help civilians in Gaza. Some excerpts -

“The IDF’s release of the block sector mapping tool aims to provide noncombatants with clear information on combat operation zones as well as directed information and instructions on how to proceed to ‘safe-zones’. LT Conricus discussed the IDF’s anticipated challenges from its use and how they intend to leverage Intelligence and cutting-edge technology to maintain a tactical edge in the field.

Acknowledging the challenges and risks to troops posed by Hamas, in projecting military moves ahead of time, LTC Conricus emphasized the importance of leveraging intelligence and adopting innovative tools to offset potential dangers, saying that while they expect the enemy to adapt and exploit this approach, "We’re finding ways to deal with the threat, to mitigate the threat, and to render their tunnels unusable,” adding this phase of operations is going to involve “high-resolution operations.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1730783395188244509

Tiger · Dec 2, 2023

Unclepaul said:
Difference is that Hamas specifically targeted innocents at a music festival and civilians in their raid into Israel.

There's probably no angels here. Maybe it's possible to say that all parties here are using same brutality as Russia, in varying proportions at varying times, with no end in sight with the current methods. I believe inclusion, not exclusion, would be the road to peace, but I wonder if the leaders really care about peace.

Buckminster · Dec 2, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1730875737748423125

Times of Israel but I would expect it to be true

Jigglypuff · Dec 2, 2023

False moral equivalences are false moral equivalences.

wdolson · Dec 2, 2023

Buckminster said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1730875737748423125
Times of Israel but I would expect it to be true

It appears to be gone.

madodel · Dec 4, 2023

After the brief truce, the war is expanding to the South of Gaza.
Israel-Hamas War: Israeli Military’s Focus on Southern Gaza Could Signal Expanded War

indysurfer · Dec 4, 2023

The pro-Hamas crowd is now targeting Jewish businesses in the US with their intimidation?

Willing to bet that many of the Corporations and Universities that stopped advertising on X believing the ludicrous anti-Semitic claims have no problem supporting these groups.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1731440158363222485

Jigglypuff · Dec 4, 2023

indysurfer said:
The pro-Hamas crowd is now targeting Jewish businesses in the US with their intimidation?

Willing to bet that many of the Corporations and Universities that stopped advertising on X believing the ludicrous anti-Semitic claims have no problem supporting these groups.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1731440158363222485

Now?

This is a spike in hatred of Jews, but it's many times larger.

X Fan · Dec 4, 2023

Traders with prior knowledge of Hamas attacks made millions shorting Israel, claims report

Suspicious stock market activity suggests more than $100m made betting against Tel Aviv shares prior to Oct 7 massacre

www.telegraph.co.uk

SmokyPeat · Dec 4, 2023

That should have raised some red flags. There's going to be plenty of blame to go around once the dust settles.

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