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Why write this post?
A lot of people are starting to get interested in IO. I don't think Octopus do a very good job of spelling out the benefits in their website. They have some FAQs, but the same questions keep coming up over and over on the forums.

What is it?
In a nutshell, IO is a split tariff that gives you a cheap off-peak rate for charging your EV and other electrical items in the household, including home batteries.

Isn’t that the same as Octopus Go or Go Faster?
The principle is the same, but in exchange for some benefits which we’ll explain, you allow Octopus to control the timing of your EV charge, so they can choose low carbon intensity and/or cheap wholesale priced time slots.

So I’m not in control of my charge? I don’t like the sound of that!
Well yes…and no. You’re in control of how much to charge and when you want the car to be ready, just like you would be normally. Within those parameters, you’re allowing Octopus to control which half-hour slots the car chooses to get to that target % charge. And you can always override IO if you want to “bump charge” through the day.

OK, but what are the benefits you mentioned for this trade off?
First of all, you get a larger guaranteed off-peak window for using household appliances and charging home batteries, etc. It’s six hours between 23:30-05:30. Go, for example, is a fixed 4 hour window.
In addition, when IO schedules your EV charging slots it sometimes creates schedules that fall outside of the fixed, six hour window. If that happens your EV charging and all your household use in these extra-slots is also charged at off-peak rates.
I have frequently had schedules give me seven or more hours of off-peak rates. On one occasion, I had a total of ten hours of off-peak rates.

Am I eligible?
You need a smart meter and a compatible car and/or charger. Since you’re reading this here, I assume you’ve got or are thinking of getting a Tesla. IO works with the Tesla API to create the charging schedules. The advantage of this is that IO will work with any* home charger. If you have a charger with smart features, you need to disable them so that the charger acts as a dumb switch. IO will control everything via Tesla’s API to start and stop your charging.
*Even your granny charger - but you need to tell IO what the max throughput is when you go through setup so that it can work out your schedules properly.

Some of this sounds too good to be true.
Phantom drain caused by having smart charging enabled in the Octopus app has been fixed as of 30th August 2022. One small side effect appears to be that schedules sometimes take longer to appear in the app after plugging in.

Further questions (to be updated in the main thread body once the edit timer on this post expires)

I have two EVs, can I charge the other while on IO?

Not with IO scheduling the charging, but you can charge any other car in the fixed 23:30-05:30 off peak window or at any other time at peak prices.

What are the rates etc?
Octopus do a decent job of explaining the peak and off-peak rates along with contracts etc. Head over to their pages to discover that.

I asked for a target % of x, but I got less than x.
There are two or three reasons for this.

The first, most common reason, is that Tesla reports battery % differently depending on where you look. The API (that IO uses) reports the gross battery %. This is generally fixed but can fluctuate very slightly. The Tesla app shows usable %. Apps like Teslamate and Teslafi can display both. Quite often, there is a delta of 2-3% which may be down to battery temp or other factors. This usable % will often be recovered as the battery warms up during a drive.

Some users have reported charging % being way off, perhaps 10% or more. This could be down to an error in the onboarding process. Some of the charger database entries incorrectly assume the charger you are onboarding is the 11kW version, without actually saying so in the charger description. The Andersen A2 was an early example of this. If you suspect this may be the case, the easiest thing to do is go through the on-boarding again and choose "Generic 7.4kW charger". It won't affect your functionality on IO in any way.

Lastly, it has to be mentioned that occasionally IO just craps out. It may be down to a comms error, a server error at Octopus' end, or just reasons. IO is a beta product and it's wise to expect one or two quirks from time to time
 
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We are on OI but fixed until august this year … assuming we won’t see the price drop until then? (We are 40p peak and 7.5p off peak)

Can we change to a non fixed contract to benefit from 1st July lower prices or will they drop ours too?

Thanks
None of Octopus’s tariffs have a minimum term. They’ll guarantee a price for a year or whatever the tariff is, however you are free to change tariffs at any time (within reason, maybe once a month or so?).
 
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Where are people seeing ‘fixed’ mentioned from Octopus?
In the app and in the bill.
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My current fixed Go ends on 25th July, this is what Octopus sent me regarding what I can do next. I’m just waiting to see how the Go and IO tariffs for me may change in July before deciding whether to continue with Go or switch to IO. But either way neither will be fixed term going forward according to this…
 

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Did you switch from a fixed tariff on Go? That seems to be how a fixed period is contingent following switch to IO.
Not unless my Dad is the exception that proves the rule. Octopus cocked up his renewal from IO fixed to IO variable when his fix naturally ended and manually put him back on the same fixed tariff with another year fix added after refunding the amount they’d charged to Flexible.

Good customer service really, and as the “new” IO fix was considerably cheaper than the IO variable, Dad didn’t correct them.
 
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Hi All,

I wonder if anyone had this situation when switching to OI.

I was on a fixed Go Faster till August but with prices changing in 1st of July, being cheaper, I decided to change yesterday not knowing how long the process was, instead of waiting till after July 1st.

Went via app process, linked Tesla car to Octopus, it asked me to do the 7 minute test charge, once it finished it said it OI was ready, and if I wanted to plug in it would map a charge plan.

So plugged the car in it started charging straight away, and it gave me a plan, 11:30PM to 5AM then 5AM to 5:30AM, so i left it plugged in however it continued charging for 14 minutes it wouldn't stopped charging, so stopped it in Tesla app, tried it again an hour later removed the cable but it did exactly the same as before, it charged the car without stopping and waiting for 11:30PM, in the end I decided to set a delayed charging start on my Easee One charger from 11:30PM, however minutes went past that but no charge so I had to manually start the charge from the app.

Is this typical? Should I wait a few days before reaching out to CS at Octopus or is this non typical and I have an issue.

Checking my account in the app, it still shows me in the Octopus Go Faster and nothing about Octopus Inteligent tariff, even though I have the devices Tab in the app and the app shows Tesla connected.


Thanks in advance.
 
Hi All,

I wonder if anyone had this situation when switching to OI.

I was on a fixed Go Faster till August but with prices changing in 1st of July, being cheaper, I decided to change yesterday not knowing how long the process was, instead of waiting till after July 1st.

Went via app process, linked Tesla car to Octopus, it asked me to do the 7 minute test charge, once it finished it said it OI was ready, and if I wanted to plug in it would map a charge plan.

So plugged the car in it started charging straight away, and it gave me a plan, 11:30PM to 5AM then 5AM to 5:30AM, so i left it plugged in however it continued charging for 14 minutes it wouldn't stopped charging, so stopped it in Tesla app, tried it again an hour later removed the cable but it did exactly the same as before, it charged the car without stopping and waiting for 11:30PM, in the end I decided to set a delayed charging start on my Easee One charger from 11:30PM, however minutes went past that but no charge so I had to manually start the charge from the app.

Is this typical? Should I wait a few days before reaching out to CS at Octopus or is this non typical and I have an issue.

Checking my account in the app, it still shows me in the Octopus Go Faster and nothing about Octopus Inteligent tariff, even though I have the devices Tab in the app and the app shows Tesla connected.


Thanks in advance.
it often charges for a few minutes after you plug in before it stops but once the schedule is set it should stop then restart at that time so it does not seem quite right. not sure why though?
 
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Hi All,

I wonder if anyone had this situation when switching to OI.

I was on a fixed Go Faster till August but with prices changing in 1st of July, being cheaper, I decided to change yesterday not knowing how long the process was, instead of waiting till after July 1st.

Went via app process, linked Tesla car to Octopus, it asked me to do the 7 minute test charge, once it finished it said it OI was ready, and if I wanted to plug in it would map a charge plan.

So plugged the car in it started charging straight away, and it gave me a plan, 11:30PM to 5AM then 5AM to 5:30AM, so i left it plugged in however it continued charging for 14 minutes it wouldn't stopped charging, so stopped it in Tesla app, tried it again an hour later removed the cable but it did exactly the same as before, it charged the car without stopping and waiting for 11:30PM, in the end I decided to set a delayed charging start on my Easee One charger from 11:30PM, however minutes went past that but no charge so I had to manually start the charge from the app.

Is this typical? Should I wait a few days before reaching out to CS at Octopus or is this non typical and I have an issue.

Checking my account in the app, it still shows me in the Octopus Go Faster and nothing about Octopus Inteligent tariff, even though I have the devices Tab in the app and the app shows Tesla connected.


Thanks in advance.
When you plug in, stop the charge manually in the Tesla app. Or you can set a schedule to start charging at 2330 or to end charge at 0530. Take your pick. This will stop the up to 1 hour or so charge that can happen when you first plug in.
 
When you plug in, stop the charge manually in the Tesla app. Or you can set a schedule to start charging at 2330 or to end charge at 0530. Take your pick. This will stop the up to 1 hour or so charge that can happen when you first plug in.
Gone with delayed start at 11:30PM, but also reached out to Octopus Energy, it still thinks I'm on octopus GO Faster in the app etc...so I don't think this move to OI went well.
 
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Gone with delayed start at 11:30PM, but also reached out to Octopus Energy, it still thinks I'm on octopus GO Faster in the app etc...so I don't think this move to OI went well.
When I switched my tariff didn’t actually change either despite having the devices tab. I contacted Twitter support and they fixed it. I got an email then saying my tariff was live and the app showed IO tariff. So unless that’s happened your tariff hasn’t switched over and that could be the issue. Even if your charge did activate you would be charged the GO rates.