zoomer0056
Active Member
So many say SF asks them for mileage. Isn't that one of the metrics automatically gather by Drive Safe?
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I've been in the program a couple of years with 3 cars. They periodically ask for milage updates but I haven't noticed if it's correlated with anything.So many say SF asks them for mileage. Isn't that one of the metrics automatically gather by Drive Safe?
I’m assuming u don’t want it getting thrown around since it has an accelerometer to measure breaking and acceleration for some of its stats.
That is quite plausible as well. I haven’t taken it apart… yet lolI admittedly don't have much evidence of this but your phone already has accelerometers, gyroscopes, and GPS. They don't need a bluetooth dongle thing to collect that info and it would be more expensive to do that (plus it would drain the non-rechargeable battery a LOT faster). The dongle is most likely just for the app to easily tell when you're in the car.
I've just dropped my dongle somewhere down in the center console and seems to work fine. My trips show the, uh, expected number of hard acceleration, cornering, braking, etc events. LOL. I personally try my best to get as many acceleration events as possible. Means I'm having fun.
To me, it's a very scary road to go down.
I phrased that poorly, I meant it saves me a small amount of money.Has that happened?
Downside for you and slippery slope arguments:I kind of get that but what specifically are the risks for me? State Farm raises my rates substantially? They can already do that if they want to (and sometimes insurance companies do). I'll switch if it financially makes.
I don't quite see how it's a slippery slope, again because I can switch insurance. Or did you mean in a collective sense across all drivers?
Genuinely curious here. For a while I was going to not enroll in the tracking thing, but then I decided it seemed like extra money for me with downsides that I literally haven't thought about for a long time (until this thread!)
I'm with you on this. I had a big reply to add but you said it all.I could go on and on. It's very scary
do you have a smart phone? Do you use google? Then I have news for you - you’re being tracked. If you use facebook you’re being stalked. Every single one of your points can already happen without the device.I am truly shocked at the number of people saying they use the tracking device. Every time I've seen an insurance company promote their big brother track your every move device I think "who would ever use that?" but I guess some people are okay with it and getting savings. To me, it's a very scary road to go down. Definition of slippery slope.
I work in tech, and I am privacy conscious personally so I would never use FB, and I have all google tracking off and manage my app permissions closely.do you have a smart phone? Do you use google? Then I have news for you - you’re being tracked. If you use facebook you’re being stalked. Every single one of your points can already happen without the device.
This is completely voluntary - you consent to letting them monitor your driving and in return they give you a discount. As opposed to everything else where they track you and use the information to sell your information to advertisers. You can also opt out at any time. For me it saves quite a bit of money - our Odyssey has low rates already but is hardly ever driven at this point so we get credit for the low usage. My son drives the Subaru and had an accident so his rates are quite high but we get credit for good driving on his part. View attachment 919177