aftermarket lug nuts, will these work?

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After a lot of searching, there's reports that leaving the wheel covers on will eventually wear on the wheel and leave scuffs and scratches. I do plan to get aftermarket wheels once the oem tire wears out, and plan to sell the Gemini wheels.

I'm not into the lug nut covers and want to replace the oem lugs with solid black lug nuts. Also, research has shown oem lugs will warp, expand, and deform over time especially with the 129 torque specs. side note, i've only ever owned Hondas, Toyotas, and a Kia and they all come with good solid chrome plated closed ended lug nuts, so I was surprised to find these cheap raw steel lug nuts on a Tesla...

these are "cold forged", 60' conical acorn bulge, M14x1.50, "meets oem and aftermarket applications"

https://www.autozone.com/suspension-steering-tire-and-wheel/lug-nut/p/white-knight-wheel-nut-20-piece-743809/883498_0_0?searchText=lug+nut+20+piece

 

[Watts_Up]

I would recommend using one nut lock on each wheel. I recently noticed that one of my wheel covers had been removed, and I suspect that someone was interested gettimg my wheels.

 

[Goobers]

After a lot of searching, there's reports that leaving the wheel covers on will eventually wear on the wheel and leave scuffs and scratches. I do plan to get aftermarket wheels once the oem tire wears out, and plan to sell the Gemini wheels.

I'm not into the lug nut covers and want to replace the oem lugs with solid black lug nuts. Also, research has shown oem lugs will warp, expand, and deform over time especially with the 129 torque specs. side note, i've only ever owned Hondas, Toyotas, and a Kia and they all come with good solid chrome plated closed ended lug nuts, so I was surprised to find these cheap raw steel lug nuts on a Tesla...

these are "cold forged", 60' conical acorn bulge, M14x1.50, "meets oem and aftermarket applications"

https://www.autozone.com/suspension-steering-tire-and-wheel/lug-nut/p/white-knight-wheel-nut-20-piece-743809/883498_0_0?searchText=lug+nut+20+piece

Were the wheels on your previous vehicles alloy wheels or sets that had wheel covers? Of the cars driven in the past, whenever they had wheel/hub covers, they had open nuts. Conversely, I’ve never seen an open (OEM) set on any wheel intended to be exposed. Aftermarket is a different story.

So, while I was surprised to see open nuts on the MYP, it wasn’t unreasonable when I thought about it.

On my previous vehicle, a 2019 Honda HR-V Touring, it had alloy wheels with closed chrome plated nuts, that actually showed signs of rust on a few of them after only half a year.

I’ve also had a few aftermarket nuts (namely Gorilla) show a bit of rust too. But oddly, in that case, they seemed to partially get wiped off. As if the rusting was of iron from somewhere else (socket adapter?).

So I no longer have any idea what to expect.

Oh, as for the topic of the aftermarket set working. Assuming it has the right thread and pitch, it should work. I have a similar set on my MYP with my aftermarket wheels (again, Gorilla like on my previous cars).

 

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Were the wheels on your previous vehicles alloy wheels or sets that had wheel covers? Of the cars driven in the past, whenever they had wheel/hub covers, they had open nuts. Conversely, I’ve never seen an open (OEM) set on any wheel intended to be exposed. Aftermarket is a different story.

The two that had hub caps were a blue 1990 Honda Accord LX and a silver 1994 Toyota Camry LE. The hub caps were secured under the exposed lug nuts. I found 2 photos on Bing. I remember back in the 80's a lot of American cars had pop on hub caps that would come off on the road and we'd see them rolling off. The Japanese car makers learned to secure their hub caps under the lug nuts. My others either had steel (2002 Honda CR-V) or alloy wheels (2013 Sienna & 2014 Kia Sportage). I did have a set of Gorilla spline lug nuts when I got aftermarket wheels for the 02 CR-V from Discount Tires, don't remember any rust, had them for 12 yrs and even go saltwater fishing regularly around Galveston, Surfside, and Freeport. Hopefully the black chrome plating will hold up.

 

[Goobers]

The two that had hub caps were a blue 1990 Honda Accord LX and a silver 1994 Toyota Camry LE. The hub caps were secured under the exposed lug nuts. I found 2 photos on Bing. I remember back in the 80's a lot of American cars had pop on hub caps that would come off on the road and we'd see them rolling off. The Japanese car makers learned to secure their hub caps under the lug nuts. My others either had steel (2002 Honda CR-V) or alloy wheels (2013 Sienna & 2014 Kia Sportage). I did have a set of Gorilla spline lug nuts when I got aftermarket wheels for the 02 CR-V from Discount Tires, don't remember any rust, had them for 12 yrs and even go saltwater fishing regularly around Galveston, Surfside, and Freeport. Hopefully the black chrome plating will hold up.


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I meant with covers that covered the nuts too, just like on the MYP. For the most part, to me, it seems like it’s really just a “fashion” choice. If it’s generally visible, it’s a closed nut.

The base trim version of my 2010 Honda Fit came with wheel covers that covered the lug nuts. And those OEM lug nuts are open ended. Heck, just did a search for a base 2021 Civic on a Honda dealer’s website, so long as you get wheel covers (that cover the lug nuts), they have open lugs. NUT, WHEEL

And once more for a 2023 Toyota Camry… this shows up as compatible nuts from Toyota (I think it’s an official Toyota e-store). https://eparts-images.toyota.com/416203.SVG With type A being an open end based on that.

Anyway, I was only stating my own experiences. While a few Gorilla lug nuts did appear to rust on my 2010 Honda Fit, it didn’t stop me from buying the same Gorilla lugnuts for my HR-V and then the MYP. It mostly appeared to be cosmetic.

 

[kiethua]

After a lot of searching, there's reports that leaving the wheel covers on will eventually wear on the wheel and leave scuffs and scratches. I do plan to get aftermarket wheels once the oem tire wears out, and plan to sell the Gemini wheels.

I'm not into the lug nut covers and want to replace the oem lugs with solid black lug nuts. Also, research has shown oem lugs will warp, expand, and deform over time especially with the 129 torque specs. side note, i've only ever owned Hondas, Toyotas, and a Kia and they all come with good solid chrome plated closed ended lug nuts, so I was surprised to find these cheap raw steel lug nuts on a Tesla...

these are "cold forged", 60' conical acorn bulge, M14x1.50, "meets oem and aftermarket applications"

https://www.autozone.com/suspension-steering-tire-and-wheel/lug-nut/p/white-knight-wheel-nut-20-piece-743809/883498_0_0?searchText=lug+nut+20+piece

Did you buy these lug nuts? I just bought a set of 18” konig dekagram and looking for some black lug nuts to replace the oem lug nuts as well. Would love to know if these will fit.

 

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I bought these instead. I just picked up my MYLR last week. I'll update once I get them on.

White Knight 1709SBK-20AM Black Chrome M14x1.50 Bulge Acorn Lug Nut, 24 Pack | eBay

SCM 435 Steel Lug Nuts are Cold Forged/Exceeds OEM Quality. No exceptions! (Including Puerto Rico, Guam, US Virgin Island PO BOX, FPO and APO).

www.ebay.com

 

[Bart404]

I bought these instead. I just picked up my MYLR last week. I'll update once I get them on.

White Knight 1709SBK-20AM Black Chrome M14x1.50 Bulge Acorn Lug Nut, 24 Pack | eBay

SCM 435 Steel Lug Nuts are Cold Forged/Exceeds OEM Quality. No exceptions! (Including Puerto Rico, Guam, US Virgin Island PO BOX, FPO and APO).

www.ebay.com

I've had my eye on those. Notice they list 3/4" hex. Can you check that and report back?

 

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During delivery there was some curb rash (demo vehicle w/ 1300 miles odometer) on both right wheels. The service advisor helped me setup an appointment. I'm scheduled for Monday to get those two wheels replaced. I just did a test fit with one lug nut. It is a little smaller in diameter on the cone. Measuring against a ruler, the factory lug nuts are 1" wide and the black White Knight I bought are 7/8"

Might not be suitable for the factory Gemini wheels. But I've read many aftermarket wheels have smaller diameter holes, so might be ok for aftermarket wheels?

 

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I've had my eye on those. Notice they list 3/4" hex. Can you check that and report back?

yes, the socket size is 3/4" hex

 

[kiethua]

During delivery there was some curb rash (demo vehicle w/ 1300 miles odometer) on both right wheels. The service advisor helped me setup an appointment. I'm scheduled for Monday to get those two wheels replaced. I just did a test fit with one lug nut. It is a little smaller in diameter on the cone. Measuring against a ruler, the factory lug nuts are 1" wide and the black White Knight I bought are 7/8"

Might not be suitable for the factory Gemini wheels. But I've read many aftermarket wheels have smaller diameter holes, so might be ok for aftermarket wheels?

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I just bought a set of Konig Dekagram 18” wheels to replace my stock Gemini. I was about to order a same set that you posted on ebay but I found a similar set on Amazon with Prime shipping so I bought this set instead (easier to return if it doesn’t fit or low quality). Will report back about fitment on both my original gemini wheels and aftermarket ones

https://a.co/d/hYOCx0k

 

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just ordered these wider oem factory style lug nuts for the Gemini wheels

20x Black M14x1.5 OEM Factory Style Lug Nut 7/8" Hex Fit Chevrolet Models. | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 20x Black M14x1.5 OEM Factory Style Lug Nut 7/8" Hex Fit Chevrolet Models. at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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informative video on wide oem/factory lug nuts vs narrow aftermarket lug nuts, starting at 5:20 mark

 

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just received in the mail. tried one on, no issues with the 7/8" hex size. my appointment this week to replace the two right side Gemini wheels got rescheduled for next week. i'll post pics next week when I get the whole set of black lug nuts on and the center cap.

7/8" hex socket, plenty of room.

test fit, no issues. sits pretty flush with the face of the wheel.

already have scratches on the spokes from the wheel cover....

 

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finally got the two wheels with the curb rash changed out today. changed out the lug nuts and put in the centercaps. disclaimer, they are painted black. some of the black is starting to smear from the torque wrench.