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    Any Hardcore Car Enthusiast Out Here? I Have Questions About Going to Model 3

    I've gotten used to it, but a responsive throttle and broad powerband never gets "old", in the same way N/A engines inherent responsiveness doesn't get "old". It's an attribute you come to expect from EVs, it makes them feel effortless when moving, and it makes most gas cars feel sluggish, IMO...
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    Charge Stats in Tesla App May Be Understating Gas Savings

    Yeah, it says the equivalent is 28mpg for the Model 3. Considering my M3P competes with other performance cars, and those are around 16-18mpg (and require premium), the savings is absolutely understated.
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    Should I get white interior?

    30k miles and they look fine, kids and all. I coated mine for some extra protection and carry wipes, but they're pretty low maintenance and really differentiate/lighten the interior, which is different and nice. You only live once, go with what speaks to you.:cool:
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    When will you upgrade?

    Not sure when I'd upgrade. I like a lot of what they've already done since my 2018, but I'd probably really take notice if they could get some of that sustained Plaid performance into the triple digits, on the 3. Should a revised M3P or even Plaid come out with that capability, plus a few other...
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    CA DMV failing Tesla car for behind the wheel drive test

    Gonna have to agree with your argument. "Auto-braking" is a specific emergency feature and comes with an alert to warn the driver of a pending collision with an actual object (and other actions, depending on the car). Regen braking is controlled by the amount of lift on the throttle, no...
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    High speed acceleration - revisited

    Bolding mine. How is the gap growing, if the cars are accelerating at exactly the same rate? The one second difference exists because they started at different times (reaction) and/or the lead car was initially accelerating faster.
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    Help Me Decide Between Long Range and Performance

    Interestingly, I ordered my M3P with PuP during the lifetime supercharger promotion. In the months between placing the order and taking delivery, Tesla rolled the package into the cost, but honored both the lifetime supercharging and 5k price reduction. Probably a combination of luck and good...
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    Mercedes EQS Sedan: Rival to Tesla Model S

    I'm liking the EQS as a car, but as with anything, there are a few things I'd change and others I love. Personally, it's one of those cars I'd like to see and experience in-person, before making a final decision, but I'm glad it exists, as it pushes boundaries in a few key areas. I also think...
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    Model 3 totaled! please advise

    While I think skepticism of insurance companies is definitely fair, lawyers can just as easily screw you. There are times to invoke a lawyer, and there are times where it's unnecessary. If there was no personal injury, no active dispute/insurance is cooperative, and damage is isolated to the...
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    Does performance feel safer?

    I think a lot of drivers instinctively hit the brakes, with the idea that it stops the situation, when really, it merely stops the car and can actually contribute to an incident. That said, you generally want to be able to react in any direction, and what electric offers is responsiveness. So if...
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    Model 3 auto-x questions

    1. About 6 runs per session, depending on format and number of people. I usually do AM sessions, though. 2. It really depends where we're running. At Summit Point they have paid charging, while at most of the stadiums/lots, no. 3. I pretty much arrive with as much as possible, after leaving...
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    Normal for battery to under-charge?

    I have mine set to 90% and it fluctuates to as low as 88%, if it's sitting. Driving into 50% or so and recharging brings it back up to 90%. Seems pretty normal to me, since I believe it's estimating.
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    Vendor Model 3 Öhlins DFV Coilovers - Engineered by Redwood Motorsports ™

    I actually haven't settled on a setting, yet, but I'm likely to go stiffer, since it's my usual preference. Part of the fun is just going through the range and seeing how the vehicle reacts, but I'm going to play with my tire pressure and everything, since I also switched my tires to non-OEM...
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    Aftermarket Wheels on Model 3

    For me it was significant enough that I definitely wanted to close the gap, and I think we have similar feelings about the stock gap on the Performance. Regardless of which you decide, I think wheel and tire type + offset also play a part. Some tires, for example, have more square sidewalls vs...
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    Aftermarket Wheels on Model 3

    No longer at stock ride height, but I did switch with those exact specs. If you're talking strictly about looks, the taller sidewall of the 245/40 tire can make the 19s look even smaller, since you're (probably) aiming for the stock 20 overall diameter. The gap arguably looks worse, since it's...
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    Lifetime Wh/mi

    M3P+, 45psi cold, for daily usage. Otherwise, very mixed driving. Alignment and tire wear were pretty good, last I checked.
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    I am wondering whether the new lithium 12v battery in Plaid will fit M3 or MY

    Hmm, that's not been my experience. I've ran a Braille GU1R in my other car since 2013, and it's spent many nights parked in winter freezing temps, only to start the car just fine. In fact, I got so used to it starting reliably, Covid ended up doing it in, as I didn't drive the car enough.
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    Vendor Model 3 Öhlins DFV Coilovers - Engineered by Redwood Motorsports ™

    Just finished having mine installed and I have to say, Redwood has put together a high quality package, here (I went with Dual Motor/Performance Sport). The coilovers definitely delivered on what I was looking for, which was no loss in daily road manners, while being able to close the fender gap...
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    Modified LR vs Performance

    Given your objectives regarding any significant differences, I'd mainly consider Track Mode, and to some degree, the possibility of performance-oriented updates in the future, which Tesla decides to cook up. Other than that, if you can save some $ and suit your needs, either variant will do the...
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    Would you pay $90-100K for a Plaid Model 3?

    The Plaid+ is also a world first. I think there's a definite case for better fit & finish, but I don't believe it's at conflict with their performance endeavors. In other words, unless you're talking about something like a stripped-down racer, it's not like the faster you make a car, the worse...
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    Would you pay $90-100K for a Plaid Model 3?

    Yep, #47.;)
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    Would you pay $90-100K for a Plaid Model 3?

    While I understand your sentiments, Tesla chasing maximum performance creates a halo-effect for the brand, which earns it desirability. Tesla could've settled with making the next-era Prius, but aside from reaching the more practical demographic, it would fail to appeal to the performance...
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    Parking at airport for 10 days...

    Always good to see people return to their thread, to report findings. ;)
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    Would you pay $90-100K for a Plaid Model 3?

    I think they should keep the 3 away from 6 figures, by as much as possible. 70k + autopilot (or a subscription) and some choice options, seems like a better target to me. I'd be comfortable with something around these specs, depending on options. However, I'd be willing to sacrifice some...
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    I wish the Model 3 had the new Model S steering wheel

    Yep, that's exactly what he's saying-- it will assume, using certain cues. We'll see how well it works.
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    I wish the Model 3 had the new Model S steering wheel

    Supposedly, the car will intuitively understand your intentions. I definitely want to try it and generally encourage new ideas, but I know there's a great chance there will be dozens of tricky situations that will leave people frustrated (just like the lack of rain sensors).
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    I wish the Model 3 had the new Model S steering wheel

    I'd have to see how it feels first, but from an aesthetic POV, it seems to make more sense in the S, since it doesn't obscure the forward display. Of course, if they want to build a Model 3 Plaid+, I'd be okay with it, lol.
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    New to Model 3

    To piggyback what others are saying and to add some perspective, horsepower really doesn't tell the entire story. Keep in mind that we don't suffer the drivetrain losses that ICE vehicles do, so more of our available power is actually put to the ground, efficiently. As @Zcd1 points out...
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    Chrome Add Thread for 2021 M3

    To be clear, I never claimed it doesn't matter- I specifically gave a nod to that detail in my second paragraph. What I did express, is that given context, I understand what many people mean when they say "chrome", especially when the topic is focused on a color change. By extension, the term is...
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    Chrome Add Thread for 2021 M3

    My take is that it's a misnomer (like many other things automotive), that's generally referring to the metallic appearance and reflective finish aesthetic, as opposed to the literal material type. I'm largely indifferent, since I typically know what the person means and is aiming to remove, but...
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    Does Lifetime Wh/Mi matter?

    If you're making it to your destinations well enough, where you're not desperately looking for a supercharger, then I wouldn't worry about it. Your efficiency is going to balance out over time, regardless. Looking at it another way, would you buy a car that didn't have heat, as a feature...
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    Thoughts on 19" wheels compared to 20" Re punctures

    Depending on your budget, it's generally easier to change wheels and/or tires. I'd primarily focus on which vehicle you want, since that's something more difficult to change, once final. From there, you can go as low as 18s and increase the sidewall on your wheel options, to suit your needs...
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    Did you PPF your new Tesla?

    100% personal decision. I got my bumper, headlights, mirrors, hood and a few key points done. IIRC, softer paint has been an "issue" on numerous cars for a while now, due to more environmentally friendly paints, so I wasn't specifically focused on that, but more importantly, I took one look at...
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    BC Racing Coilovers

    I've ran BC Racing BR series coilovers (with Swift springs), on my other car for the better part of a decade and autox'd on them. I agree with what someone said above, in that they performed as expected. They allowed me to stiffen and lower the suspension to a point I liked, for the price...
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    I got my first rock chip :'(

    I decided to do PPF on my 3 and don't regret it, at all (2 years in). It's already saved me from a number of rock chips, and it's also easier to clean off bugs and other stuff that usually hits the front of the car. As with anything, you're talking about a type of insurance-- that is, protection...
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    Preconditioning Car Yield Full Regen Capability?

    If I'm reading correctly, you're referring to two separate scenarios. Generally speaking, if I don't precondition the battery, I'll receive a notification which states regen braking will be reduced, but gradually improve (as it heats up). When I precondition, I don't receive this message...
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    Favorite part about 2020.48.26... changing the charging threshold

    You can change to percentage within the Display menu. Touch Controls > Display > Energy Display > Energy The "howling" is the Pedestrian Warning System (PWS). https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/model_3_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf
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    More narrow backup camera screen w newest update

    I like most of the changes, but wouldn't mind if they gave us more area on the map/backup camera. The previous split of screen real estate was fine. I'll likely get used to this, though. The windows also go up and down, as you adjust. Sadly, the mirrors don't fold, though.
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    Performance Model 3 Drag Race - 2021 vs 2018 - Is it Faster?

    In reading and learning from this thread, I'd actually prefer the more accurate term, if the DU isn't actually binned and assigned a unique part number. As a person who's familiar with the PC binning process, calling it "binned" suggest something other than what is taking place.
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    Notification when unplugged at home.

    I wouldn't mind if Tesla added it. When your vehicle is low on battery, it tells you to charge. The car sends reminders for a host of other functions. Meanwhile, one of the key talking points of EV ownership is charging at home and Tesla recommends keeping the car plugged in when parked, if...
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    So you don't have a 2021 "refresh"...who cares, really?

    I think it really just depends where you choose to focus your attention. In the real-world, nobody really cares, which likely accounts for the majority of people. To anyone who earns a living from Tesla coverage, they'll make a bigger deal out of anything...this includes blogs and YT. With the...
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    Price to upgrade to FSD from EAP?

    Is that really a discount, if they roll the price into a net increase for the car? Something like rolling the PUP package into the Performance model seemed more like a discount, since they reduced (or refunded) 5k on the total cost of the vehicle. I decided to look up the history, because it...
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    Price to upgrade to FSD from EAP?

    You have it right. I paid 5k in 2018 for EAP. FSD saw a price increase by as much as 7k with the recent increase. I just checked the app, and it's back down to 5k. Personally, FSD doesn't add enough to command that type of premium on a depreciating vehicle, especially as I'm driving less due to...
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    Any Model 3 Performance Package Owners Switch from 20" Wheels to 19"?

    Yeah, this is pretty much true. I remember when I had an RX-7 with 16s, and 18s were the "big" wheel. Fast-forward to today, and 18s are now small, lol. In my experience, more tire is better in theory and I don't think there is anything wrong with it, but in practice, it comes down to a number...
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    Tinting help with battery life?

    Looking online, it appears there are theoretical arguments for it, and I'm aware that people have lowered energy bills with their home HVAC, after tinting or insulating windows, for example. The attached screenshot from Tesla shows the effect of HVAC, when controlling for everything else...
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    Engineering Explained- wheel size effects on electric cars

    Gotta say, that's not my takeaway from the video or finer points of the thread. From what I'm reading, the statement does serve as a general fact (I'd reword it, personally), followed by some people who seem focused on arguing the exception. In general, it's understood that larger wheels create...
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    Engineering Explained- wheel size effects on electric cars

    Jason didn't just say it, he also showed the numbers. @Clivew also explained the difference diameter makes, given the same wheel (and other variables being equal). If you change the wheel design, as you have in your scenario, you're now arguing outside the point.
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    Unnecessary acceleration ticket

    Yeah, one of my buddies uses this and it's entirely too willing to mark false-positives, lol. They aren't calibrated well enough for real-world driving and certainly not well enough for an EV. The other part, is yes, Tesla's can do quick 0-60s, but so can other cars-- the difference is the...
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    Unnecessary acceleration ticket

    After reading the officer's description of events, it sounds like they have a prejudice against Tesla vehicles (despite what actually happened). Since the infraction leans towards the cops discretion, any possible bias is what I'd aim for, though I'd probably get a professional involved.
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    Why is Black the least popular color?

    Go with what you like. I've previously owned a black car and have no desire to do it again. Black looks great when clean, but that's probably because most don't do it (well enough). But then again, a clean car stands out, regardless of color. It really comes down to personal preference, but for...