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  1. systemBuilder

    Model 3 emergency take-over & slams on brakes

    Today while driving south on old middlefield road in silicon valley to get onto highway 101 south, I was in the left lane following a car when a flatbed truck maneuvered to leave the road in the right lane, causing my car to immediately lock up the brakes, suddenly halting my car. Luckily...
  2. systemBuilder

    Help ordering 2nd Model 3

    If you don't have $14k, get the AWD, which is a good deal even if you only get a $3750 tax credit. The car is 10% faster for 10% more money, PLUS you get 4WD, which almost never happens, so it's a deal! The P3D is about 30% faster for less than 30% more money, so it's an even better deal. Our...
  3. systemBuilder

    What the wife said

    We got our car (a P3D+) a month ago but my wife was relucant to drive it. She said ... I'm afraid it will get scratched ... It cost SO much money! What if I destroy it?? Then ... I finally got her to drive to a nearby bar last night. The first things she said were: (tries accelerator...
  4. systemBuilder

    A REAL wireless charging pad for the Model 3

    Good News (save $99!) I live in the Bay Area and last weekend left my credit card on top of skyline boulevard. I found that on the way back (going up and down La Honda Road), my phone was flying all over the car, under the accelerator pedal, deep in the passenger wheel-well - Everywhere! I...
  5. systemBuilder

    From Models S to Model 3...Wow these cars are different!

    I have a P3D+. It drives like a starship. You just spy a point down the road, hit the accelerator, and the car teleports you there (it uses a technology called 'blink drive'). I have never had a really fast car before. Our fastest car before was a 1971 Dodge Coronet 440(cu in), doing 0-60 in...
  6. systemBuilder

    Tesla Model 3 Drive System Validated after 1 Million Miles of Testing

    Hey if they disconnect the motors from the wheels and run the motors at 1000 mph then it would only take them 1.5 months to go 1M miles!
  7. systemBuilder

    How will Model 3 improve?

    Right now, the Tesla Model 3 is about 5 years ahead of other cars. I am not certain they will maintain this lead. If customers don't buy these cars they certainly won't maintain their lead. If you are looking for a car that is 6 years ahead, I guarantee it will never come, as a car 5 years...
  8. systemBuilder

    MVPA does not show free premium connectivity + free charging

    Don't worry it's well-established that the date when you paid your $2500 establishes which freebies you get. I have a P3D+ (ordered 6/30 at 11:22pm) but still nothing that says free supercharging or unlimited connectivity.
  9. systemBuilder

    Pulled the trigger: AWD to RWD for faster delivery

    i love my P3D+ but one day I hope to borrow a RWD with aero wheels and drive it 300+ miles. I love hypermiling our ford fusion energy (72 empg woo-hoo! even though it really means 36 mpg ...)
  10. systemBuilder

    Are RWD really being fulfilled within 4 weeks?

    Can you park the car somewhere that you can run an extension cord out of a window and out to the car? We charge our electric cars on the street in front of our house, on 120v. You can charge a tesla 3 RWD 50 mi overnight (it's more like 4 mi/hr for an aero / rwd car) and perhaps visit a...
  11. systemBuilder

    Are scale models still being given at delivery? :)

    The cars are cute, but it's a $10 item. If you want one you can get it on EBay for roughly $60 from some other owner.
  12. systemBuilder

    GAH! Help! I'm all set to buy a 3, and then I found a used S!

    We got a P3D+ and we are ecstatic. People love this car. Everybody who drives it has flipped out. Most are AFRAID to use more than HALF the acceleration. There are many design advantages (and of course, it's MUCH easier to park). The main thing is, the Model 3 is 600 pounds lighter (4800...
  13. systemBuilder

    My model P3D+ delivery was perfect

    I used the Tesla Model 3 checklist from a long time ago on Tesla, Inc - The Original Tesla Motors Reddit Forum. I just updated it slightly; here it is: Tesla Model 3 Buyer's Acceptance Checklist
  14. systemBuilder

    P3D with Performance Upgrade and Black Interior status

    My VIN is 63,037, and my build month/year is 8/18, so the car (P3D+ blue/black) was at most ~30d old (delivered sept 12th). Note that if you are getting a P3D the EARLIEST anybody EVER got the car was july 19th, 2018 (according to spreadsheet), so you don't have to worry about getting some...
  15. systemBuilder

    My model P3D+ delivery was perfect

    When I said the car had good phone integration I was referring to the ability to control the car (lock, unlock, heat) with a phone app I don't know of other cars that do that, and autopilot leads the industry although I didn't buy it - the self-driving industry is still terribly immature and I...
  16. systemBuilder

    P3D with Performance Upgrade and Black Interior status

    Guys don't worry my car is 63,057 blue/black P3D+ and is absolutely perfect, delivered Sept 12th in Fremont!!! I tell my SciFi friends it has a Starship BlinkDrive you just point it and hit the accelerator to teleport to that destination!
  17. systemBuilder

    Time from delivery scheduling to VIN?

    8/5 my first loan approval expires after 30d. I had applied on 7/5 because a 1-800 agent said, "you should be getting your car pretty soon!" 8/31 first call from IDA (friday) - was driving, had to hang up. 9/3 (mon) call back the IDA, left message 9/4 (tue) call back the IDA, left message...
  18. systemBuilder

    My model P3D+ delivery was perfect

    There are so many horror stories, I wanted to post something positive. Our VIN is 63,057. Our delivery on 9/12 was perfect. We went through a 3-page checklist (including the one item, "check to make sure the owner's manual is in the glove compartment!" lol - its online in computer system now...
  19. systemBuilder

    New "Chill / Normal" acceleration modes?

    I have a P3D+. Normally I have to drive it with my foot at only 10% of the depth of the accelerator, the car is so powerful. With chill mode, I can drive it at 33% all the time. The car will behave like it has 200 HP in chill mode, instead of ~500. In regular mode my 16-year old son makes...
  20. systemBuilder

    Track mode exclusive to P3D+

    To disable stability control I believe you can disconnect some sensors. This is what Sasha Anis did when winning the time-attack series in Toronto Motorsports Park in June 2018, with his model 3 RWD. He has recently developed a tuning device to disable traction control (and using it, set an...
  21. systemBuilder

    Wiki Model 3 Order Tracking Spreadsheet

    This is nonsense Tesla can do the loan (which they flip right away to an MBS buyer) or another bank can do the loan or the customer can pay cash, ergo, Tesla pockets the cash a day or two after the sale of the car.
  22. systemBuilder

    Wiki Model 3 Order Tracking Spreadsheet

    My vin will come on September 26th, 2018. Why do I think so? I ordered an AWD PERF with a reservation. Tesla started VINing these cars on July 19th (roughly, according to spreadsheet) tesla has averaged 2.75 VINs per day since then (110 cars VINed so far). My order is 192 out of 285 orders in...
  23. systemBuilder

    Track mode exclusive to P3D+

    Its sort of why I ordered the P3D+ to begin with. I figured that if Tesla ever provided some sort of performance upgrade (ludicrous+?) it would only be for P3D+ models. This seems like the first software feature that is exclusive to a particular trim within a particular model. Sorry, guys ...
  24. systemBuilder

    P3D with Performance Upgrade and Black Interior status

    Wow that REALLY pisses me off because I've been waiting almost 2 months for a Blue P3D+ black. And my reservation is 2 years 2 months old. Maybe you got priority from EAP and FSD = more profitable?
  25. systemBuilder

    Group Buy Poll for Mono-Block Forged Alloy Wheels by Titan 7

    If you could get Titan to tweak their forging dies to accept genuine Tesla black wheel caps (the kind used on 19" and 20" wheels), I think you would hit 400+ orders in 1 months. This titan wheels looks almost identical to the 18" aero wheel, the main difference being that the aero wheels has...
  26. systemBuilder

    Just ordered my M3P-

    I wouldn't say it's 'burning' money to get a P3D or P3D+. I bought a Ford Fusion Energi 2017 this year, waiting for my Tesla 2 years. I had been daydreaming about a Mustang Shelby GT350 or GT350r. They are great cars, very fast, and are considered bargains. But the Tesla is an even greater...
  27. systemBuilder

    My VIN is in the 7x,xxx...anyone else

    I have seen a photo of an AWD model with a vin of 74xxx. VINs do not completely go in sequence (they stockpiled some "spec" cars in June and sometimes when you order a RWD car with the right color and options you get a phone call in minutes! Seriously!)
  28. systemBuilder

    670 Credit score and 50k for Model 3 RWD.

    I got offered 4.5% with a similar score (buying 2 cars this year and my wife canceled our oldest credit card, nuking our credit). That was at XCEED (Xerox Federal Credit Union), which has offices in LA / El Seguno I believe. They are now a national credit union but it's easy to join in Los...
  29. systemBuilder

    P3D with Performance Upgrade and Black Interior status

    I think we need to grapple with the issue that Tesla probably has 15,000 P cars on order (4% of all orders). Currently 20% of cars built are P cars. If tesla builds 20,000 cars per month that's only 4,000 cars per month, so it will take almost 4 months to work off that backlog.
  30. systemBuilder

    Why I Cancelled My Model 3 Order and am No Longer a Tesla Fan

    I think the original poster got jerked around so much, he did the right thing. I would do exactly the same thing if Tesla jerked me around that much. It's just human decency; if the company doesn't have a ticketing system to enforce human decency and/or make exceptions when the screw someon -...
  31. systemBuilder

    Edit URL hack now shows old prices for changes

    That link DID work for me. Everything was as I had specified it, however, the delivery fee increased from $1000 to $1200. And the delivery time is 2-4 months (right now my order says Aug - Sept).
  32. systemBuilder

    Changed performance w/ upgrades to white interior recently?

    I have bad news for you. I called on July 16th and got the same exact, exact same verbiage from the guy. I think it's part of their script. My car was configured (P3D+, blue) on June 30th. "Oh you should be getting a call any day now" is exactly what the guy said to me, about 1 month ago ...
  33. systemBuilder

    Chicagoland, P3D+ Waiting Room

    I don't think Chicago is neglected (PS I'm originally from Champaign-Urbana Illinois). I work for Google, just 10 miles away from the factory, every day I see 5 model 3 cars at different spots in the massive parking lots that I drive through to get to my charging station, and yet, I have never...
  34. systemBuilder

    Swapping white dash for wood dash. Anyone interested?

    I believe the wood dash is a laminate atop maybe a plastic piece. So you could probably take the dash to a woodworker and get any wood you wanted wetted & bent to laminate it to the white dashboard.
  35. systemBuilder

    Performance Upgrade Package and Ludicrous Mode

    I see a lot of people deluding themselves, mis-reading the online configurator at Tesla and misinterpreting it so that they can falsely believe they will get something for nothing. Performance model is "up to 155 mph speed" Performance base model is "145 mph speed" (everyone knows it's a...
  36. systemBuilder

    P3D with Performance Upgrade and Black Interior status

    If you look very carefully at the model 3 delivery estimator spreadsheet, very few PERF cars were estimated to be made in July. It estimates only ~134 cars (we know that 100 red/white-interior cars were allocated to show rooms) Model 3 Delivery Estimator However, starting in August, the...
  37. systemBuilder

    Deep Blue Metallic Waiting Room

    Deep Blue/Premium Black P3D+ (20" wheels) non-owner, NO EAP or FSD 06/16/2016 reservation online 06/30/2018 ordered (took 2d to pick the P + 20" wheels) Aug-Oct delivery No VIN, everything else frozen these past 5 weeks.
  38. systemBuilder

    P3D with Performance Upgrade and Black Interior status

    Come to think of it, they are probably offering free supercharging to grandfathered-in performance buyers because they are going to disappoint us in some other way(s) *sigh*. There's no free lunch ... my account used to say delivery July-Sep, now it's Aug-Oct, maybe soon, Sept-Nov??
  39. systemBuilder

    Tesla Kept Their Words On 1-3 Month Delivery

    They aren't ready to disclose the prototype. It's not right to take a deposit without disclosing the prototype.
  40. systemBuilder

    Bloomberg’s at 5,187 now. :)

    I feel that the bloomberg graph is a joke now, i believe they are currently delivering Model 3's in the 70,000 range, I have seen a photo of a P model with a VIN of 74,xxx.
  41. systemBuilder

    P3D with Performance Upgrade and Black Interior status

    Here's a thought, guys. Maybe there is a shortage of 20" wheels. So, the highest-margin cars get the 20" wheels. As long as there is a SINGLE white-interior P3D+ car on the books, it gets built. Under these circumstances ALL the 18" P3D and P3D+white cars would get built sooner. But they...
  42. systemBuilder

    P3D with Performance Upgrade and Black Interior status

    We can probably guess that the following is the best margin in order... <<< Don't forget there is a 3rd dimension!! 1. P3D+ WHITE 1. P3D+ WHITE - order3d before 7/1 to get free cellulr 2. P3D+ BLACK 2. P3D+ BLACK - ordered before 7/1 to get free cellular <<< me, blue, res 6/16/16, order...
  43. systemBuilder

    Did Tesla just raise the price of Pearl White and Red again?

    Tesla at the unveilng did not promise to offer the Model 3 in volume until 2020. When they got the enormous amount of pre-orders (I believe inside the company they expected ~100,000 orders and they got 400,000+ orders), they tried to move up the schedule by 12 months, and they succeeded in...
  44. systemBuilder

    Did Tesla just raise the price of Pearl White and Red again?

    Yes, I was one of those people buying on 6/30 to get free cellular for life (life of TESLA, which may not be forever if they cannot make money). And now, I find that my P3D+ will get free supercharging. And now my paint has appreciated $500, my delivery fees, $200. After waiting 2 years...
  45. systemBuilder

    Does anyone know the hardware differences between the P3D and 3D?

    Re: Tesla Model 3 will have a ‘Ludicrous’ mode, says Elon Musk The Model S P85D Ludicrous upgrade (demarcated by a red underline) included the following: 1. Special fuse on the main battery pack and close-monitoring computer system so that the pack could get closer to thermal limits before...
  46. systemBuilder

    Model 3 specs

    You are saying Ingeneerix has done a teardown of the Model P3D already? I don't believe it. Just because they all use silicon cabide, doesn't mean there aren't more parallel circuits for higher power delivery in the P models.
  47. systemBuilder

    Model 3 specs

    Horsepower in a regular car is a function of the inputs and waste-removal system (Fuel delivery system, air intakes, exhaust) Horsepower in an EV is apparently measured unconstrained by the power delivery system. The P models deliver power using Silicon Carbide inverters. Silicon Carbide is...
  48. systemBuilder

    Blue colored Performance + nowhere to be found yet?

    Blue P3D, + 20" wheels/brakes/mph bump. No other options. Reserved 6/16/2016 Ordered 6/30/2018 No Edit 7/3/2018 Nothing yet. Aug '18 - Oct '18 delivery date 775 days waiting, and counting ... It will be 800d on Aug 25th... I am climbing the walls.
  49. systemBuilder

    Why I gave up and bought a Prius Prime

    OMG guys what is this, a love-fest among Prius owners? REAL tesla owners LEASE a plug-in hybrid until their tesla comes in (buy american : i leased a ford fusion energi SE). In february, after waiting 2 years, BOTH our cars died, deader than doornails. We are giving up on the japan junk and...
  50. systemBuilder

    Model 3 "Performance Brake Calipers" just red or different altogether?

    Wrong. There is a 10-mile computer controlled speed ceiling increase to + package. This is something you cannot do in any other way (other than hacking the computer system ... unlikely) Look, if you can find another stock car that does 0-60 in 3.3 secs for < $71k, have at it. No such car...