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  1. 9

    Accidentally ordered a 2nd Model 3

    While waiting for my delivery advisor to get back to me about my appointment for my 3P+, I logged in to see how much my existing config would cost if I were to order today. Tesla doesn't make it easy to see the breakdown if all the fees so I clicked order thinking that there was going to be...
  2. 9

    Did you get free SuperCharging and Award Credit after upgrading to P3D?

    I ordered a RW LR 3 in mid-June and modified in mid August so you're pretty much in the same boat as me. + unlimited supercharging + unlimited connectivity - referral credit/wall charger
  3. 9

    Did you get free SuperCharging and Award Credit after upgrading to P3D?

    Here's Tesla's response to my email: "Any orders placed before 8/1/2018 that were for a Performance Model 3 or are later modified to be for a Performance Model 3 will automatically be updated to reflect unlimited supercharging. Orders placed before 8/1/2018 are not eligible to have a referral...
  4. 9

    Grandfathered in to free supercharging and connectivity after upgrading?

    My LA service advisor could only get me #2, connectivity/supercharging based on my original June order date. Could not allow me to use my referral code after editing my order to the 3P I've emailed Tesla but it's impossible to get a response.
  5. 9

    Unveiling on Oct 17th

    I'm really really surprised that they're promising level 5. Sounds like they have a plan, but isn't the consensus that the hardware is the 'easy' part but the hardware is hard? What happens if they can't get the software to work well enough to get level5 going?
  6. 9

    If 10/17 announcement is Autopilot 2.0 I will wash &wax your Tesla by hand!

    I live in LA but I'd rather you just pay for my retrofit
  7. 9

    Elon: No Discounts !

    If Elon really felt it wasn't right, and wanted to make it up to customers who did pay full price, he should offer a discount on soft upgrades. Discounted service agreement, extended warranty, battery upgrades etc.
  8. 9

    Video - Just Saw Tesla AutoPilot Test Vehicle

    Did you notice any additional sensors built into the car? Extra housing in the windshield? Extra radar in the sides/rear? It might be an indicator on how far along they are with new AP hardware and if they're benchmarking or testing for inclusion.
  9. 9

    Case of bait and switch?

    I know it's a Model X in this case and the Model S is the one with all the huge discounts, but it's crazy that they're discounting those cars about thousands and thousands, swapping out confirmed cars for inventory cars, waiving fees etc. Yet they won't live up to the terms of a deal...
  10. 9

    Back to a "Meh" experience

    If they're not going to give you a discount, I'd take delivery whenever is the most convenient. The delivery center should be a lot quieter the first week of October vs the last week of September so you might even get a little better service too.
  11. 9

    New Southern California edison time of use rates

    You're going to need to break out a spreadsheet and do the calculations to figure out what works best. For my needs, TOU was absolutely necessary, but charging a Tesla is very different than charging a Volt. After changing to TOU my SCE bill wasn't drastically more expensive even with the...
  12. 9

    Some exciting observations about the new Model S60 (software limited 75 kWh)

    @Ingineer - Were you able to get some test 60s to test voltage? and do you still think it's not top-limited?
  13. 9

    Why AP 2.0 Won't Be Here Soon, and It Won't Be What You Think It Is

    Yup, I am arguing with myself. I can't see them releasing new hardware until they can assess the new information that comes with the 8.0 update and the extra information the radar is providing. However, I also don't understand the Q3 push. It seems extraordinarily desperate, and Tesla doesn't...
  14. 9

    Why AP 2.0 Won't Be Here Soon, and It Won't Be What You Think It Is

    I don't think AP is coming soon for many of the reasons listed already, but the one sign that gives me pause is the huge Q3 clear out that's going on right now. I understand that it's supposed to make Q3 numbers look good, but from my vantage point they've gone overboard with the deals. Will...
  15. 9

    Welcome the AP Nanny!

    A few interesting tidbits from the actual NHTSA policy as it relates to Tesla's Autopilot https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/AV policy guidance PDF.pdf ".. manufacturers and other entities should place significant emphasis on assessing the risk of driver complacency and...
  16. 9

    Welcome the AP Nanny!

    A National framework and standardization is good. My fear is that the NHTSA will heavily regulate L2/L3 autonomy, and push for L4 autonomy.
  17. 9

    Tesla discounts on soft products?

    Conventional wisdom on buying a Tesla was: "Buy it whenever you can" Now it's going to be: "Wait until the end of the quarter for the fire sales"
  18. 9

    Welcome the AP Nanny!

    Looks like the Autopilot Nanny has arrived. With the government heavily involved in the approval and design of autonomous vehicles it looks like it's going to be hard for Tesla to keep pushing the envelope. Fact Sheet: Encouraging the Safe and Responsible Deployment of Automated Vehicles...
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    Will the global vehicle market (all automakers combined) be bigger or smaller in 2030 and why?

    When autonomous cars become commonplace (don't think it will happen by 2030) the industry will start shrinking. Private cars will becoming moving offices/living rooms. Speed, handling, safety will become normalized. People will not only make fewer car purchases, they'll upgrade the...
  20. 9

    Tesla discounts on soft products?

    Now that it's clear that Tesla is giving unprecedented discounts to move cars, any thoughts on if Tesla will/should start running promotions for soft products for current owners? Discounted software unlocks? Discounted ESA/Extended Warranty? Discounted charger upgrades? Once you start...
  21. 9

    Blackvue DR650S Review + Tesla Model X Install

    For those of you guys that have already had the Blackvue installed: If you wanted to switch to another camera, would it be an easy swap? That is, is the power and the 2nd ch run 'plug and play' If not, do you think it would be an easy swap as long as it remained Blackvue but another model?
  22. 9

    Mobileye rips Tesla Autopilot, Chairman says it dumped Tesla

    What Tesla needs to do is create a series of videos that detail when AP will not work. They already have a series of videos that owners can watch before taking delivery, they need to do the same to illustrate the limitations of AP. I know the limitations of AEB and TACC are in the manual, but...
  23. 9

    Alliant Credit Union 1.49% for 72 months

    I was assigned an officer after applying.
  24. 9

    Why AP 2.0 Won't Be Here Soon, and It Won't Be What You Think It Is

    I thought that AP2 hardware was coming very very soon too, but after reading the transcripts of AP in v8 of the software update I've changed my mind completely. I can't conceive how they can figure out what hardware they'll need before Model 3 release, let alone source and install. Maybe...
  25. 9

    Bolt EV EPA range = 238 miles combined!

    Initial range is only half the story though, right? Isn't degradation the other half? If the Bolt charges up to 95-97%, what will degradation look like after 20k miles? Perhaps Chevy is expecting more leases than purchases and degradation won't matter as long as they get their feet in the door?
  26. 9

    Why AP 2.0 Won't Be Here Soon, and It Won't Be What You Think It Is

    Obviously it's all speculation, but if you believe: 1) Tesla was planning to use (more) cameras as the primary sensor in AP2 (windshield housing in Model X) 2) Tesla decided to investigate if it's possible to switch from cameras to radar only 3-4 months ago (per Elon Musk) 3) Tesla has only...
  27. 9

    Alliant Credit Union 1.49% for 72 months

    Easy experience here, almost too easy. Approval came quickly and needed no documentation, they just pulled the credit scores. I was a little late getting the trade-in so car was delivered before the MVPA was generated. I docu-signed as soon as the MVPA was generated and Tesla allowed me to...
  28. 9

    Supercharging by Locals/Overcrowded Superchargers in So Cal

    Won't this start getting solved as the Superchargers go PPU? I'd even be happy if Tesla removed the unlimited supercharging option and opted for PPU for all non-grandfathered Teslas. As long as they charge a rate that's a little higher than utility, the incentive to for locals to charge will...
  29. 9

    Why AP 2.0 Won't Be Here Soon, and It Won't Be What You Think It Is

    It feels like Tesla's learned quite a bit from AP1. They've learned enough that radar is now the primary vs the camera. That's a huge paradigm change. That switch, coupled with the lack of multi-cameras to fill in the Model X's housing makes me think that new hardware is still awhile away...
  30. 9

    Butt dialing while the App is ON - a caution

    That's actually the sole reason I don't have summon active on my Tesla. I've butt-dialed too many times. Accidentally calling someone is one thing, accidentally moving my car is another.
  31. 9

    Removing Vinyl Wrap

    I'm contemplating getting my Model S vinyl wrapped instead of putting on paint protection. The costs are similar, but the idea of protecting the car while being able to easily change colors is intriguing. Costs seem to run about $2k - $3k for 3M Vinyl wrap which isn't too bad, but I'm...