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    Why can Tesla not do this?

    you're not wrong......dont forget build quality and fit and finish.
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    Lower back pain and the Model X

    I have low back issues and I loved the seats.....very comfy and much better the S seats.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    NW in my ideal future US, all power would be HYDRO or fail safe Nuclear and all cars would be EV. Tesla would have perfect quality and fit/finish....... :)
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    First Impression: Not Happy

    same cast of characters in here giving you a hard time....its not shocking.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    again this is just ignorance.....if QUALITY CONTROL was up to spec they would not have to order me 3 cars and there would not be 10's of articles out there about all the issues the Model X is having......again wake up, put down the Kool aid, and get real. The car is at the Service center and I...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    A typical straw-man deflection argument, I came in here complaining about car issues and paint being the biggest and people start asking why do you care about paint when you have this awesome Tech EV state of the art machine.....I answer honestly, and then the FANBOYS like you cant wait to...
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    First Impression: Not Happy

    oy....your going to be disappointed. I was. But I I hope it works out for you!
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I may do this down the road a bit when I feel less abused. It's good advice. I did offer to get an alternative color because when I looked at other cars the only cars i saw that had issues are the Pearl White, they said we want to get it right and get you the car you wanted. Problem is they...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I agree with this. Only defending my position from the Fanboys (who seem to be part of the problem not the solution) and sharing my experiences. Tesla will never be a great car company if it cant get these things right. Apple on the hand strives to make these things right, and that's the point...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Speed limit in Texas, New Mexico, and Colorado is 75 Miles per hour... give me a break, very do able. I do 85-90 no problemo, even faster in super rural spots.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    You should take notice because QUALITY CONTROL obviously sucks! And in the long run and at much bigger scale problems will kill your/Teslas profits.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I do demand the same things from all my high end purchases. That's why I have only purchased Japenesse and German cars. I do think it's unfair to say that unless a car has an electric motor that's there is nothing special about it. My R8 is a supercar marvel with a custom twin turbo system over...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    See this is the right response, thank you. And I have also seen many Teslas with perfect paint why should I have to accept less?
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Tech, speed, drive ability, and cool factor....plus I am/ was a huge Elon fan. I thought it was just a fade till I took a ride in a P85d and loved the way it drove and accelerated.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Really many here have said just the opposite.... They have many paint issues and just deal with it because it's the EV dream car.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I am an auto and tech enthusiast..... That's the draw to the Model X for me. I love the latest and greatest.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I have tried to no avail.... How many more cars should I order while I can barely drive my untitle un plated Model x and tesla sits on my 113k. It's not like they are expidighting building replacements for me or doing anything else to make it right. They offer me nothing but another car with...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    GM almost sells that many cars in a month.....and if they can get fit and finish right so can Tesla. The consumer has to demand it.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Sorry for Texas-ing gas under 2 bones here
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    That's incorrect How much oil consumed by the United States comes from foreign countries? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    They acknowledged my issues could not be fixed properly by 3rd parties, they tried. And like I said before anyone with a paint meter can see your car has had paint work and that deminishes value.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Wow this is just so wrong..... I loved driving that car. If I wanted to just return the car form the get go there was no reason to order 2 more and waste my time and aggravation. Get real... I do see why the fit and finish sucks...... Y'all make no bones about it and just take what you are...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    The US is the largest oil producer with the largest reserves on the planet..... And yes a consumer should be able to have his cake and eat it too.... The tesla should also have great fit and finish.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I am trying my best brah.....this is only the first step.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Again you guys are way to hung up on EV......its not an excuse to build cars with poor fit and finish. the only person that is parting you from your money for less value than you deserve is TESLA, and that's the point. Over paying for a car that STILL RUNS ON COAL OR OTHER FOSSIL FUELS is just...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    EV and driver assistance is meaningless to me I don't commute anywhere. If EV makes for a better driving experience than that's a another story and I do believe the driving experience is awesome. But that does not make it ok to accept less than I would accept from another car company. At 2...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I hear yeah and its not going to change until the consumer demands it.....This is also a problem because they own the whole distribution chain if dealers were on the hook to sell these cars they would be making sure the Quality was much higher because they would have to deal with these issues...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Apple revolutionized the phone industry with a A+ fit and finish product......cut the crap Fanboys. The fact you you are willing to accept sub standard quality because you think Elon is saving the world, is laughable. He, like any SALESMEN will sell what ever a consumer is willing to buy...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    German and Japanese car companies take these things very seriously, its does happen everyday. I have never had to have a car returned or fixed, ever.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I have had multiple Audi's my current R8 has a perfect fit and finish. I have had multiple Mercedes Benz, my GL450 has perfect fit and finish. I have multiple Toyota's, My Tundra and Landcrusier have perfect fit and finish. I can go on and on......
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    All of you who suggest you should take a car that has flaws because that's just the best Tesla can do right now is hogwash.....they will never produce a car up to standard if that's what the consumer will take. Painting a car is not rocket science. Body panels that fit correctly is not rocket...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I actually offered....
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Black car in 105 degree heat no bueno....AC can barely keep up now. The PW White with White seats is awesome. shame on them they cant get it right.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    its not a fun car buying situation when you have first multiple issues resolved poorly and then multiple cars with almost the same issues.......not easy to say well lets order car 4? I am fed up with their customer service and quality control. I own quite a few high end autos and have never...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    cant title the car, cant get a plate.......its hot here, I want the windows tinted, and my radar installed. Since the end of April I have only put 2200 miles on it.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I was told to pick it up any time Friday I said 10 am she replied later how about noon "the detailer wants to be sure your car is perfect and is putting extra time in" which now I know means code for we found some stuff wrong and we need to try to fix it and we need more time. I walked in...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    at this point for me its a matter of principal, the fact that they continue to waste my time because they can not put in the effort to make sure its done right is simply outrageous. not happy to give up my car, not happy at all.....
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I looked at multiple other colors and they looked perfect so I think these issues are Pearl White paint only, that said here is what to look for: Look at your bumpers closely, run your fingers along where bumpers meet the body, can you scratch the paint off with your nail? Compare the bumpers...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Model X 5YJXCBE21GF015159 Ordered Accept Delivery Model X 5YJXCBE29GF003941 Delivered Here are 2 of my 3 vins for all the non believers.....they took the middle one away when they ordered the 3rd.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    funny what does not bother you is Tesla taking care of its customers and delivering a quality product.......cheers.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    DD I see you are in Austin too, I am sorry you are having a similar experience......yes the Service Manager needs to go. He could have fixed my issues right before I ever saw the car and I would never know about. Like others have posted thats all legal. I don't understand how they detail cars...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    I pointed you to a thread that others are saying the same things with pics.... and those pics are impossible to see anything. Some people just don't want to believe, that's where the term FANBOYS comes from to begin with. I can post pics and people like you will still be disbelievers, that's the...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    If you think Tesla building a customer 3 cars to "satisfy" them is a good business model....when there is nothing really wrong according to you fanboys, well.......you just cant make that up. Run a business like that and see how long it lasts, Model X is not an ice cream cone. Thats where the...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    guys they did not order me 2nd and 3rd cars because i was seeing things.....that's a very expensive under taking, they did it because they know they have issues. Pearl White Exterior Model X Photos See post #29 I am not the only person noticing these problems, and I bet if others with Pearl...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    thanks Tao, but I am a cash man and cant bare to lease a car. I even offered to order the car in another color but they told me they wanted to get it right and get me the car I wanted........BS.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    Really those cars are transported fully wrapped to insure no paint issues. BMW only moves their cars under their care to make sure of no issues. My paint issues did not happen because of a bump or scrape.....they are FACTORY issues, and those body panels should never leave the factory like that...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    this is not a Hyundai Kia or Chevy.....and yes I have done all that research already and it disturbing to know what some car companies do to their cars before you get it. Pearl While paint is multi coat process that is very hard to fix outside of a factory paint job. Fan boys if your willing...
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    and when you try to sell the car anyone with a paint Meter can see that its been painted out of the factory and will pay you less resale for it.....
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    again its a long story and yes it was unethical what they were doing....because they knew it was not fixed right and were lying about it. Even the concierge who delivered the car at one point said don't let them take it back they cant be trusted fixing your car right.
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    To Elon Musk RE: My Former Model X

    the car was amazing.....its a long story because they initially tried to cover up the issues and have the car painted in a local body shop but i noticed clear cost over spray on the car plastics. Then they acknowledge their somewhat unethical steps to fix my first car with out me knowing about...