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I put my name in during the reveal. I believe that was in 2017 (?) Got my money refunded in 2019 when it became apparent that formerly “fun“ Tesla didn’t care about early adopters anymore. My guess is most likely Tesla will cancel it. I’d love to be proven wrong though as it’d be fun seeing it...

Interesting. Had a 2015 Model S and *never* experienced PB. On my brand new S-refresh Ive experienced it several times now. It scares the *hell* out of me (and the people behind me!) to the extend that I’m very reluctant to still use AP. I used to keep my right foot near the brake when using AP...

HW 4 Model S refresh plaid with 2023.20.7 here. Still no FSD. My understanding is that FSD does not support HW4 yet.

Consider yourself lucky. You got your HW4 FSD incapability for FREE for three months. I paid $15,000 for it! 😬 I think you got a great deal!!

Took about a month for me. But that was 3 years ago. Signed up during the reveal in Nov 17. So glad I decided to cancel.

Porsche GT3 exists and is renewed every few years. 5yrs old new Roadster does not and will not for at least another 2 years. I’d definitely go for the GT3 if I were you.

a new one? Let’s get the 2017 model out first! ;)

The question I have is: which one will be available first? My bet is it’ll be the Model S. They would never want to release an inferior Roadster and as it seems little progress has been made (zero announcements whatsoever) I guess they’ll “upgrade” the Roadster design with the new battery. And...

The fact that the media window keeps coming up on the console screen at power-up! I think it’s ugly and don’t want it polluting the screen/map (which I *do* like). Why can’t the SW simply remember the last windows config?

I'm curious. At just 200.000-250.000 and low volumes (sports cars == impractical) why do you believe the Roadster will be very profitable? My feeling is there's not much money in it for Tesla (other than marketing value, which they're actually already enjoying today - long before introduction).

Personally, I'm not so worried about my deposit. Although of course you'll never know, my gamble is that if Tesla is forced to sell the shop, it may go for a (relatively!) cheap price, but the buyer will take on the liabilities. I *am* worried about what this means for the Roadster development...

With "email" do you mean: Report: Musk Orders Company to Cut Costs - Tesla Motors Club ?

Really hope you’re right and I’m being overly pessimistic. Especially as I don’t really have a plan B... That’s a big part of the reason that my reservation and hopes are still with Tesla. I would hate to take the refund only to see Tesla making a big splash a week later... :mad: Would love for...

What’s “launch mode”?

2LTL2LT. :mad: Ok, sorry ... let’s change it to: FUNTSTC :)

Yes. And the fact that they’re not (or: no longer) sharing excitement really takes a lot of the “engineering fun” out. So far, Tesla hasn’t made *any* type of gesture towards early reservation holders who they used to treat as some of their most valuable resources. Truth of the matter is that...

I’m in the same boat. I also think it will not be 2020 but more likely 2021. 2020 is just 9 months away and I just don’t see Tesla giving this any priority. And as initial production will be very slow it will take significant time for the signature deliveries to be made first. That may bring us...

Was it just me or was I do only one who initially thought they made a practical joke driving another Model-3 on stage? :oops:;) Nice to see the pics on the web-site now though! Presentation was underwhelming but the car looks nice! :)

Very disappointed about the event from my side. Of course it "showed" but was promptly put on the side of the stage. No update on the delivery schedule whatsoever (unless I missed it?). That likely means it's behind schedule unfortunately. 2020 is just around the corner, so they should...

Yes, it’s back! They’ve put a menu back at the top of the home page. With a direct link to the Roadster. This is great news.

I’m not sure how stopping promotion of the Roadster would help profitability. Note that the Semi is still prominently featured through a link in the main menu. The Roadster has been demoted to a hard to find link at the bottom of the page though. I’m not saying it’s malicious intent. But it...

Hope you’re right. It’s at least good to know the Semi pages went missing also. I’m worried/surprised though. I feel Tesla is not doing much to keep the reservation holders “warm”. Many folks have a lot of money riding on “anticipation”. If Tesla doesn’t “fuel” that I fear people may bail out...

So it’s still there but they’re no longer linking to it? Or did I just not look closely enough? In any case, it’s good to know at least the page still exists.

I noticed the Tesla website doesn’t show anything on the Roadster anymore. Did they decide to stop selling it?

I’m NOT saying Lamborghini is dead. I like Lamborghini’s! They’ve got A LOT of character which I think will be very challenging for Tesla to match/exceed. I’m just saying that that I don’t consider Lamborghini’s “supercars” anymore. Not even the (upcoming) hybrid ones. By my definition, any car...

Nope. Too expensive. No money left.

I think more and more enthusiasts will agree that any toxic exhaust fumes spitting car by definition cannot be considered a “supercar” any longer... But either way... even if you take his definition of a supercar: “Reggiani added that these specifications would be a speed of “more than 300 km/h...

Not only did this driver try to kill the occupants. He grossly endangered the lives of other drivers on the freeway as well by coming to a complete stop! :mad: If this was to prove a point it came at a high risk to others.

Sorry to hear. Would have been nice if "Musk" could have learned more from your company. Perhaps that's part of the problem here? Many people personify Tesla into Elon Musk (and hence treat Tesla as one of his "Mickey Mice"o_O). The reality of course is that Tesla Inc. has become (or at least...

I'm curious: which company do you work for? I think this would be interesting to know as it sounds Tesla (or specifically "Musk" as you refer to their CEO) can really learn from them!

So I'm guessing perhaps "European laziness" may play a factor in the negative experiences OP had with service centers in Norway? :p :p Note: this comes from a "lazy European" engineer who's lived in America for about 20 years now building "American quality" products and who some would...

I was interested to read your post based on the title. However, then you used the word: “idiots” in the 2nd paragraph and immediately lost all credibility.

That must be the funniest post I’ve seen on this site. :D:D:D

I hate that when I floor it my cell phone starts flying through the car landing in the back seat... ;)

Perhaps you can ask Tesla to undo the uncorking?

I think you’re absolutely right. Torque steering is going to make a huge difference. Thanks for alleviating some of my concerns on handling. Now I want the car even more! Is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet? :)

Kickstarter payments do not typically pay interest do they? Nor are they 100% refundable? Of course, it's a lot more money but that's a relative thing. A homeless person will probably call anyone who buys a Tesla (any kind) crazy... Tesla positions it more like a "reservation" fee. You buy a...

Easy: think how empty your life would be without one! :rolleyes:

Yeah, weight is my concern also. Probably it'll be less than double, and I suspect a lot of the weight will be integral to the chassis, but still. It seems to me Tesla still wants to push the capacity much higher than what's available today to alleviate range and charge-times concerns of current...

6) if tesla would post supercharger wait times, I could have avoided Burbank with it's pittyful charger infrastructure altogether... :rolleyes:

1) you're not being reasonable. I waited an hour for my spot! It would be silly to then just charge 15-20min (given the very low charge rate) just to get to Tejon Ranch! 2) Tejon Ranch is undergoing maintenance/upgrades and has a warning on Tela's site!!! 3) You are penalizing the wrong person...

I simply do not want to risk having to wait another hour again for a stall to become available. Now that I am finally connected to a charger I'm going all the way full despite the tapering off of the charge current. With such long wait times, it's better to minimize the number of charging...

Barely gaining 130miles/hr. Looks like I'll be here a while as I need to top off to reach Harris Ranch. Not sure why Tesla thought it was a good idea to just put 6 chargers in this place? Perhaps I should look into this ChaDeMo thing?

Mon 1:30. 6-car deep wait as I'm on my way from San Diego to San Jose. I have no choice but to wait... This doesn't work. Avoid!!!

Still getting only 60miles/hr even though the paired stall is now vacated. Moved my car from 3B to 1A. Much better! Now getting 175miles/hr.

Saturday night. 9pm. Took the last available charger. What's with the charge current here? I'm barely gaining 60miles/hr...

Well? :-)

Motorcycle ran a red light!!

12yr old 73lbs Labrador retriever @ Arastradero supercharger. Note the ramp. Works almost as well as with my old X5. Would recommend the rear liftgate sunshade (see Tesla web-site) though. It can get hot in the back under direct sunlight.

Got one today also. Also my first one. My car is a March '15 delivery. Immediate tried it on my way to work and indeed noticed that a definite maps bug (The Nav telling me to make a right turn where the road is simply going straight) has been fixed. Made me happy... :smile: