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Well that will save me a lot cash. Maybe Porsche or some other company will present enough competition to force Tesla's hand to restore such a basic option. Until then I'll just enjoy my 2012! What about more colors or custom colors?

Does anyone know if there is a sunroof option? (the kind that slides open and you can feel the air rushing over the car through the open sunroof?) Also, will there be a seven seat option?

Any return of the pano roof? or seven seats?

Not necessarily true. I can no longer get the leather, pano roof, or color I want on a new S.

Permanon'd my Pacific Blue '12 P85. Washed and rinsed twice with Simple Green Extreme Aircraft. Clay bar'd a small portion with Meguiar's Professional C-2000 Mild and chose Mr. Pink neutral pH soap as the clay lube. (to avoid a third wash) SGExtreme was mixed 1:16 with distilled water. (2...

Just got a quote from Safelite to replace my 2012 P85 windshield for $680.

Won't consider a new S without a pano roof. Funny to me that people who don't feel this way think dropping it is ok. Whether you like/want the pano or not the S *IS NOT COMPETITIVE WITHOUT IT*

For anyone interested in better seats for the MS, here is an excellent summary of most/all of the seats ever offered on the S. There is also a good bit of additional info down in the comments.

I could probably live without the jumpseats... well actually that would be hard to do. Just thinking about all of the fun my kids and their friends have had riding back there! Plus our nieces and nephews and soon our grandchildren. I remember my youngest daughter and her friend making faces...

I'm a toss up on the facelift vs cone. Colors are a huge deal to many, and the number of choices is far to small IMO. In the beginning they talked about and even did a few custom colors. You can get any color you want on a Panamera for (I think) $12k. But the S is a very classic and timeless...

Wow - reading the Options by year wiki I see there were many many seat versions! gen1, gen1.5, "Premium", netxt gen,.... All I know is I've driven loaners with much nicer/cushier leather seats than my 2012 P85. But looks like any newer dark blue with all the other options I want would be a...

Thanks Akikiki! So was that before the gen2 seats were available? That is, was there any time overlap where the original dark blue was available with gen2 (cushy) seats?

Hi, Do any of you know exactly when the original dark blue was replaced? I have an original blue 2012 that will be falling off its extended warranty soon and am looking for options. I've been planning/leaning toward keeping my 2012 "forever", but have been considering my options. I would like...

Bring back pano roof. Increase range and charging rate. More color choices. More luxurious interior. Make test driving and service much easier.

This. And more color options and wheel options and interior options. Porsche allows custom color. Take it or leave it, no or low options is "not sustainable" in a world of competition.

Wow. No pano-roof no sale. What's up with that? Has that been gone for a while? Guess I'll be driving my 2012 forever.

Thanks gnelson. I wound up buying four Hankook 21's from Tirerack for half what I've been paying at the Houston SC. Had them sent directly to NTB who also did a good job on the alignment. Still would like to find a company that could install the camber adjusting bushing's, but until then at...

Hello fellow Houston area Tesla owners! I'm considering trying the K-MAC adjustable bushings to adjust my rear alignment that eats expensive 21" tires. Can anyone recommend an alignment shop with experience aligning Tesla's? Here's the thread in the Model S forums: Vendor - Rear Adjustable...

I am the original owner of a 2012 P85 that is not a sig.

Would like to see posted speed limit on my speedometer on my pre-AP. All of my Garmins and such show this info.

Well that's just mean. :) Being an embedded software guy, I definitely don't want AP. I would like to know the posted speed limit when I've missed seeing the physical sign. I got used to this with my various dedicated nav systems that have all posted the speed limit. Maybe they'll give us...

Hi, I have a classic P85 (2012). While having my TPMS system upgraded I had late model P85D loaner. It's dash display was different than mine. (both 8.x) Instead of the normal circle of speeds with a pointer, it had the actual speed as a large text number. It also, and this is what I'm...

I have several 12V and 110V compressors. One thing I learned recently is that a bicycle pump is much faster than waiting on these small compressors. The other day I had eight car tires to do at once (MS and Volt) so I decided to try my manual bicycle pump and it was easy to do two car tires...

Thanks for the info. From reading these forums I figured the LTE was either a thumbs up or down. Sounds like its an up. I need to check on the cost of the TPMS upgrade, but I can't stand not knowing my tire pressures. Also, I have an issue right now where I'm getting erroneous "Tire...

Wow, you guys are a great help! I'm glad I ordered the chademo adaptor. That should guarantee success. I'll also check out those hotels - nothing beats overnight charging for convenience. I was thinking though - I wonder what will happen to eVgo when even the cheapest ev's have 200+ mile...

Hi All, planning a trip to Hurst and Fort Worth next month. (wife and I in training class in Hurst then visit my sister in FW) Looking for hotel recommendations that offer/allow overnight charging in either location. Would like to stay in the town center area in FW if there are any good...

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I used Home Advisor and had a NEMA 14-50 installed for $150 with no other fees. Actually had a second one installed as well. Pricing is better if you approach it as adding and electrical outlet. Mention EV and their eyes get big.

Although I would be happy for San Antonio (or whomever gets the GF), I would rather they just use some of the giant facilities they already have. Turning a real business need (lots more batteries) into a political carrot will bloat the time and cost thus delaying the benefits and blowing the...

Right. I pay $10/month for a Premium account and I get playlists. Not sure what else, because playing songs on demand (other than playlists) is very spotty at best. FYI, only playlists provide the ability to rewind. Stations only allow unlimited forward skipping.

FWIW, Premium features working fine here. I added a new playlist yesterday, rebooted center console, and it and all the old ones play. (albeit with the same old sometimes not-too-bad and sometimes almost useless buffering...)

I'd rather pay and get better performance.

$429/6 mo from GEICO for P85 only (all other cars, house, etc.. through other company). I put just my wife and I on the car. It was going to be much more to put my 20ish year old sons on the car. The $429 was just going through their website with no history or special contacts with...

Sure was a lot easier to answer when the 40 stripper started at 50. I'd just say starts around 50 and goes up from there - and most nodded at the good value. Now I just say they're pretty expensive, but I really enjoy mine! If they press me I point out that I can outrun an M5 and I only...

I've found the same to be true. The Dolby implementation seems to have been fixed and now sounds better on than off with everything I've tried so far.

Haven't read entire thread but P110+ sounds wimpy to me. 110 makes me think of 110V. (yes I know it actually refers to battery capacity) They should take a lesson from muscle cars of yore like 409, 396, 454. Maybe 109?

13 mos. 11k miles. Took it in last week for a sun roof issue and all service, TSB's etc. done and treated like a king. Even though it was just the afternoon they gave me a P85+ loaner and then swapped my car for loaner at my office. Couldn't have been treated better. No regrets... (this is...

I agree it looks very good!

Since random debris can be any random height, changing the height of the suspension doesn't change the safety at all. Now that it is higher, larger debris can get under there and possibly cause issue. For each height the car can be, there is debris that will, and debris that will not...

Ah, but what would your wife/date prefer? Ah, if only someone could invent something like a delay timer... Crazy talk I know. By the time they invent delay timers we'll be using transporters instead of cars :)

I'm talking about when I open the door for my wife - beautiful music playing - elegant interior lighting - oh so perfect - she feels so special and pampered - then WHAM! in the lonely dark while I walk around to the drivers side. Sloppy whether you want to make excuses or not.

I think this is one of the sloppiest oversight/bugs in the car! My wife and I joke that we need to get Elon a girlfriend so he'll understand how uncool it is for her to be left in the dark! Any chance it's fixed in 5.8?

I went with XPEL Ultimate from Xpert Tint. (I asked for a rec directly from XPEL pres and he gave me Sunny at Xpert Tint - on 59 just outside beltway) For OptiCoat Pro I went with Gulf Coast Auto Shield. John Gray does a fantastic thorough job - removing the wheels etc... You can either drop...

With a frontal XPEL wrap and a full body OptiCoat Pro a trip through the Touchless Wash is a like a miracle. Even a rain gets the Tesla looking good up front. (not so much in back where the wind doesn't finish the job) If the touchless doesn't do a perfect job then I finish off with some...

Depends on how comfortable the armrest remains at what appears to be about double the height of the stock armrest. Great idea, but would rather the armrest height not be increased so much....

I can attest to this! I had to take a trip through the boonies and had the front of my S covered with bugs. Then I had to go on travel and didn't get around to cleaning them for two weeks. But it was raining the weekend I got some Meguairs Bug Pads and when I went to clean them they were all...

$475 included paint correction, removing and coating wheels/etc., with Opticoat Pro. If you're in the Houston area and want Opticoat Pro from a great authorized installer, just PM me. Very happy with how the car looks and how easy it is to clean.

I feel like we early adopters should get quite the deal on a retrofit. Any car in this class should have parking sensors in the tech or convenience packages, but Tesla was unable to get it in before initial ship. I think the right thing to do for supporters who bought any way and trusted Tesla...

Went with Opticoat on top of XPEL Ultimate. Not sure how well the XPEL would have performed by itself, but a few days after I had the opticoat applied I took a long trip through bug country. Front of my S was a mess! I emailed the Opticoat installer and he told me to leave the bugs there as...

Ya, Opti Coat Pro on my Blue. Looks fantastic and washes so easy. Pete is definitely right about the installer being critical. Mine was/is a maniac for details. Very happy.