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    US Bank end of Lease

    I am getting closer and closer to the end of my lease. As I do my anxiety level raises. I do not like what I have heard regarding people dealing with US Bank on lease returns (non-Teslas). And considering how much upside down my lease is I expect it to be brutal. I am not a fan of the lease...
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    No lease for M3?

    I knew exactly how bad the Tesla leases were. They suck! ...however, they also lose money so fast that a lease is the best way to protect yourself from low residual values (much lower than they estimate). Ex: We purchased a 2016 MS P90DL at a $22k discount ($142k MSRP). Leased it for...
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    AP1 / AP2 Owners Poll

    I have found that since the AP1 update (forced by the Service Center), I no longer use AP. I just don't go on highways very often, and most of my driving on divided roads is limited to the speed limit. It is painful to actually do the speed limit. Almost everyone is accustomed to going 5 mph...
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    2.48.16 limits max autosteer speed to speed limit on local roads?

    This email prior to the upgrade would have also given me the heads up not to install the update. (In my case the service center installed the update automatically, so I didn't even get a choice in the matter)
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    2.48.16 limits max autosteer speed to speed limit on local roads?

    Also, sometimes speed limits are set artificially low because they know people will do 5-10 mph over anyways. Ex: our neighborhood set the speed limit to 20 mph even though the road was designed for 35 mph. People still drive 27-29 mph on average.
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    2.48.16 limits max autosteer speed to speed limit on local roads?

    I get this argument all the time. I will tell you that 90%+ of the time those people are hypocrites. They will say it is illegal to speed, but then do it themselves. Ultimately it comes down the responsibility being mine. I am liable for the car and what it does. Treat it as such.
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    2.48.16 limits max autosteer speed to speed limit on local roads?

    I just drove the car again. It appears that the HOLD WHEEL nag has increased to about 30 second intervals. I called the service center. They need to get this software off my car. I did not authorize the install of the software, the service center did it and it has crippled the AP for most of...
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    2.48.16 limits max autosteer speed to speed limit on local roads?

    The service center is not aware that the speed limit (5 mph) should have changed. They are looking into it, though their response is still that AP is only meant for the highway. :(
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    Model S vs. Radioflyer S

    I need to make a video of my kids racing the summon. I think they might win...
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    2.48.16 limits max autosteer speed to speed limit on local roads?

    Either way, you are looking at Autopilot as a driver. Autopilot is just lane keeping assist. It is an assistant, not a driver. When looked at as an assistant it shouldn't matter how fast you are going. It isn't driving, it is doing what you tell it to do.
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    2.48.16 limits max autosteer speed to speed limit on local roads?

    Crap, I was afraid this was actually and issue and not just a fluke. I just got my car back from the service center and they installed the software that now limits it to the speed limit. It will become useless to me on all but highways now. I use it as a second hand on the wheel, but doing...
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    Model S vs. Radioflyer S

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    Private Party List Price 2015 60 kwh w/Autopilot

    I am trying to get a ballpark of where I should list the 2015 Tesla Model S 60kwh with Autopilot for. Options are attached. Mileage is around 25k. No accidents or issues.
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    Near 40% loss in value on 2016 P90D--

    Exactly, but that is why we leased on this one. I didn't want to worry about how much it would loose by updated models. I knew exactly what I was into the car for.
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    Near 40% loss in value on 2016 P90D--

    We leased our P90DL for a purchase price of around $115k. It stickered at almost $145k. I would expect the extremely optioned car to drop in value really quickly (% wise) as it has already been replaced three times (refresh, 100kwh, and AP2.0). The base models not so much because it...
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    8.01 Software Update

    I got the update this morning on our Model Ss. It seemed to mostly have to do with USB functionality, however it did also update the issue with the song playing half way through and cutting off. Instead however it now restarts the song every time a door is closed and then opened (assuming all...
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    Is this what Tesla's Roof will look like?

    Our neighborhood (in Florida) requires that we have a tile roof. I'm not sure we would be allowed to put a blue roof. It would stick out like a sore thumb. Also, I am hoping the cost of going solar goes down dramatically. I got a rough estimate this morning for 12-14kwh for about $30k after...
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    Firmware 8.0

    It seems that my 2 biggest issues have been addressed. 1) Slacker plays partial song after starting the car. Even if I just get out for a second and get back in. 2) Garage door closing. If I manually press the button it will still try to do the auto-close resulting in opening the door again...
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    V8.0 Autopilot Update to Use Radar

    I apologize if the question has already been answered, but I haven't been able to find anything on it. Since the radar will now be used as a primary sensor with the camera will the auto braking for autopilot occur earlier now? I do not know the technicals of it, but I am wondering if radar can...
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    My MS thought a 45mph road was 5mph and tried to reduce my speed to 10mph

    I am wondering if it does both. I-275 in Tampa was recently redone (and moved slightly). As a result the navigation keeps thinking we are on side roads while going south. Because of this it does try to slow the car down to 30ish mph in that area. There are no signs pointing to that speed...
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    Snagged a P90D Inventory car for $700/mnth on the new 24 month lease

    We picked up an almost loaded Red P90DL as well. Not quite as deeply discounted we waited 24 hours too long to pull the trigger, but still at about $1100/mo. We will be taking delivery on Friday making us a dual Tesla household as well. Super excited, unfortunately the 60 feels slow now! Our...
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    2 Model Ss - How to Keep from Confusing the Keys

    I was hoping there was a way to have the keys programmed to work on both cars, but that does not sound possible. As an alternative, how do others identify their keys? We will be adding a second Model S to the family (at least for now). I like to have my key as is without anything on it. My...
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    How Best to Sell 2015 60 kwh w/Autopilot

    What I am trying to find is the best way to sell it private party. Trading it in to Tesla has no additional benefits to me (financially for tax savings) as we are going to a lease and the sales tax savings does not carry over. Assuming it is sold private party where should it be listed, and...
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    How Best to Sell 2015 60 kwh w/Autopilot

    This was an inventory car build in March 2015, so yes. If this car had been delivered (custom ordered) in December vs build in January it would have been the same price (ordered from Tesla), but on resale, yes there would be a big difference. Shows how broken the model years are. Just my...
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    How Best to Sell 2015 60 kwh w/Autopilot

    Tesla offered $52k.
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    How Best to Sell 2015 60 kwh w/Autopilot

    Carmax was much worse. They offered $46k. I'm not sure what they were thinking. Even the one at the auction went for $55k.
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    How Best to Sell 2015 60 kwh w/Autopilot

    I have heard several stories on this, but it is difficult to get a straight answer. The best I can determine is that they base the value of your car on what you paid for it. The problem with this method is that the exact same car can be worth very different amounts depending on the price you paid.
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    How Best to Sell 2015 60 kwh w/Autopilot

    I am trying to determine the best way to sell our 2015 60kwh w/Autopilot. I have gotten a quote from Tesla, however since it was an inventory car they are wanting to give me less to buy it back. I have found that most other dealerships do not know how to appraise the car. There was one 2015...
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    Resale Value - 2015 60kwh w/Autopilot

    Just under 15k miles. I have included the tax credit in losses. FL does not have any state specific incentives. Sales tax was a completely different issue, and also not expected to pass on, though it did cost me about $4k.
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    Resale Value - 2015 60kwh w/Autopilot

    Florida, Tampa area.
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    Resale Value - 2015 60kwh w/Autopilot

    I am entertaining the idea of cutting expenses. A $1k+ car payment is a big one. :)
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    Resale Value - 2015 60kwh w/Autopilot

    Inventory purchase, but the car was manufactured in March 2015, so it is 1 year old and I am the first owner.
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    Resale Value - 2015 60kwh w/Autopilot

    I purchased my Tesla back in December of 2015. I am trying to determine realistically what it is worth. Tesla has offered $53k for trade-in and the Toyota dealer didn't know what to make of the car so they had their wholesaler give a price on the car of $50k trade-in. Has the car really lost...
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    Flood of inventory cars has replaced CPOs in Canada and US

    Another thought on what might be happening. I was told that all loaner cars are listed for sale (always). I know that our store had several waiting to come in. The likely answer is that the loaners are starting to arrive and are listed for sale. Right now they are not discounted much at all...
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    Summon failed and hit my garage.

    I have to watch ours very carefully. The other day after an update it pulled itself in half way and tried to close the garage door on itself. Had I not caught the door it would have hit right in the middle of the Sunroof. We have had numerous fails. That being said, I don't trust it yet.
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    Door Ding/Gash on a Loaner

    I think you might be right about the CPO, and it was how I helped explain the charge to the other mom. Tesla has the loaner listed as a CPO for $75k. They had a valid point that the buyer of that car would not want a ding is such a visible place. Oddly enough there was a huge scrape on the...
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    Door Ding/Gash on a Loaner

    The mom and I agree on this one. She agreed to pay the repair bill and will be calling Tesla today to coordinate the payment.
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    Door Ding/Gash on a Loaner

    Someone's kid slammed their door into the side of the Model S loaner I had. When I returned the car Tesla said they were going to have it fixed and bill me for the repair as I signed responsibility for the car. The ding went all the way down to the body, and was about 1 inch long. The repair...
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    Summon Why ?

    I have found it convenient if I need to take out the trash cans (back of the garage). Or grab anything off the shelf, or need extra work room where the car was parked. I can simply back it out without having to get in it. I also like to put the windows down and pull it in or out of the garage...
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    Minor Summon Crash

    I saw this article today about a quick update to Summon to stop the car if the fob is dropped or finger is removed from the phone. Tesla to Update Self-Parking Feature Due to Safety Concern » AutoGuide.com News I would also suggest adding if the car gets out of FOB reach. I was at someones...
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    Cruise Control Not Available (Autopilot too)

    Yes, I received this if I clicked it twice to activate autopilot. If I clicked it once it was 'Cruise Not Available'. - - - Updated - - - The service center called to service the appointment from when I originally logged the issue. The tech reviewed the logs and determined that even though...
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    Cruise Control Not Available (Autopilot too)

    I checked and cleaned the radar a couple times. It was clean, that I think is what concerns me. Fingers crossed it doesn't happen again.
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    Cruise Control Not Available (Autopilot too)

    I started experiencing this on Friday after getting my car back from the service department. It worked on the way home, but later that night it would not. I called Tesla and they took logs for the local service center. We verified the sensors were clean and rebooted the car. The service center...
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    Cruise not available

    I started experiencing this on Friday after getting my car back from the service department. It worked on the way home, but later that night it would not. I called Tesla and they took logs for the local service center. We verified the sensors were clean and rebooted the car. The service...
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    What's everyone's take on our nav system?

    Also a new owner (3 days now). I have noticed a few things. We are looking to make a trip from Tampa to Savannah this weekend and the car routed us up through northern GA to come back down into Savannah. EVTripPlanner suggested we take the Ocala supercharger and then to Kingsland then to...
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    New Model S (Should we Lease or Finance?)

    Our local Tesla store pointed us to Suncoast Credit Union. They offer 1.75% rate on a 72 month loan. If I finance 100% of the vehicle purchase the amount I would have put down on the lease plus the tax credit ($14,330) could be used to reduce the first 36 payments (essentially pulling from an...
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    New Model S (Should we Lease or Finance?)

    This is what I was thinking as well. I might not own it after the 3 years. I might own it until the warranty is up, but either way if we chose to sell sooner than the lease ended it looks like we would be at a $7500 disadvantage as well. - - - Updated - - - The only reason that I am looking...
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    New Model S (Should we Lease or Finance?)

    We ordered our Model S last Friday and it is an inventory car coming from the Northeast. (60 kWh, White, Panoramic Roof, Tan Leather, Supercharger, Dual Chargers, Tech w/Autopilot) Our plan is to lease the vehicle. Since it is an inventory car it had a discount of $11,800 plus the $1,000...
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    WTB: Pre-owned 85 or P85

    I heard something different from another thread. I thought a car going from the US to Canada would not have the warranty, but a car going from Canada to the US would and could be services in the US. Double check that.