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I would guess that the traction is better on dry proper asphalt at the right temperature than on the steel drums. The grooves on the drums are for noise cancellation rather than traction :-)

“Torque is what gets you to the speed you want quickly; horsepower is what keeps you there.” - Charles Hubbard, Lexus College P85D has massive torque, also compared to the P85, and it has AWD for better traction. But at speed the P85D superiority compared to the P85 or 85D is minimal and...

So 257 + 257 = 422 hp at Fremont but they will not tell us what 221 + 470 equals using their secret calculator ... 422 is about 18% of the 514 so using the deduction of 18% from 691 gives us 566, which is close to max kW under acceleration which is 418kW. Given those numbers the correct number...

Are driving with or without regen on?

I understand wk057s post as questioning the validity of the REST API data, hence the 3.3 sec - but with that in mind I still think we are getting close and I believe that it will be able to do it in the right conditions, which would make me a happy owner. But I would like to have it available at...

well, i don't know. I only have the two numbers - the energy drawn from the battery and the energy output at the wheels. HOWEVER, the 415 kW is at a 100% battery level, and the dyno was done at 70% battery, since we could not get the charger to work. But lets just say that the loss is 8%, so we...

So the car was at Tesla for testing last week. I have not heard anything from them yet - but this is the numbers from the REST API from their testing: From these data it did not look like they were able to hit the magic 3.3s for 0-100 km/h - actually, having only one out of ten tests only...

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The belt broke after 45 min testing. We had done all the tests and verified them several times. Then I asked him do a test were he floored it from zero. He was not sure that it would stay on the dyno, so he did a soft roll out at about 5 km/h and then it broke the belt. We had to run it at max...

I bought a car that was advertised as being able to go 0-100 km/t at 3.4 s, later updated to 3.3 s. The car is going into Tesla tomorrow for testing along with two other P85D's. I expect them to come back with a solution for the car to achieve the advertised numbers.

Sorry - it is .238

Was just upgraded to .239 and tested - now it is drawing approx 385kW at just under 90% charge. Tested on dry road, 17 Celsius, A/C and radio off, 21" tubine

did you get an answer, when you asked them?

I agree that 22% loss would be to much for one electric motor. However the 400kW draw is for two motors, so the loss would be about twice the loss in a single motor. Furthermore the P85 results do not tell us anything about the P85D as the rear motor may be configured differently in the P85D - I...

:biggrin: Ha ha - this would actually be funny, expect for the fact that I paid $150.000 for the car

ok - but the power meter and REST API is only how much energy is transfered into the motors, not what they put out. So it is diffently not 550 hp then. Correct about the torque, but HP are measured with know factors, the weight of the drums etc. I was told by a dyno specialist. So the one thing...

+1 Where did you get the 550 hp from, when I had mine on the dyno it was approx 430 metric hp and from what I understand the dyno test dragtimes did showed the power in the same range. Instant torque on the other hand is out of this world :-)

I don't understand what is wrong with wanting to know what I bought since it clearly is something different than was advertised? If you think its whining, stop reading this tread - and I have written to Tesla Denmark and asked the same questions, and as others I receive no answers. Clearly...

Are you saying the car is shifting between front to rear wheel bias at any given time? It sure does not feel like it. Furthermore I do not think any one of the two motors at any time is at their max, but please prove me wrong. Or maybe they use the two motors as compensation for not having...

If the limit is the battery output, then they should advertise with that number. The fact is that the motors DO NOT make that much power, they CAN make that much power - there is a big difference, so the statement is not true. If I walk into McDonald's and ask for a 30oz soda and they give me...

Well the P85D is not a traditional awd, so less power at the wheel because of awd is not an issue. I would almost buy into your arguments except that it is only one of the cars that are rated way off, if it was all of them you could argue different ways of calculating power, but not when it is...

There have been cases like this before? Any links? If that is true Tesla needs to get on top of this, since we are not talking overstated by 10 or 50 hp but like 60%+ overstating

+1 I have never seen it advertised as anything else than 691 hp or 221 hp front and 470 hp rear. I agree that they should just advertise it with the actual hp and not this misleading 691. But then it would just look stupid charging $20.000 more for only 10 hp more and 1.3s faster 0-60. They...

Why would Tesla advertise it with 691 hp if they did not want us to believe it has 691 hp? That makes no sense. The car was introduced as a technical marvel replicating the out-of-this-world performance of Elons McLaren. It was a 5 door saloon that could sit 7 people and still do 0-60 in 3.2s...

Test is performed under those exact conditions I think there may be, and I have been telling Tesla that for a month now. They have pulled the data and said that everything looks ok. Next thing is that they will come and collect the car on a day where conditions are optimal for testing and do...

My previous post is pending approval - let see if this go through I'm on version .188, and it has just become slower with the updates it had. It was diffidently quick when I got it with version .124 on it, but since then, nope. The notes says quicker, the numbers says no. I believe numbers...

I did the dyno last week that showed just over 430 metric hp, max torque never measured as it broke the timingbelt on the dyno. Since then I have done some 0-100 km/h and looked at the data from the REST API and at 100% Battery the max draw is 415kW and at 90% it is 405kW. That is energy INTO...

Just bumping this tread How big a power draw are we actually seeing from the P85D in real life? I know I'm not seeing anything near 540kW, I'm scary close to the power draw of the P85. Is the improved acceleration more down to better traction because of the AWD rather than more power? On a...

Nice video :biggrin: can't wait for mine to come A range of 217 with that driving style, that is ok, isn't it? What is the mpg for the Aventador? The real problem isn't the range as much as it is the charging time and charging availability, or??