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https://tff-forum.de/t/tesla-vision-vs-ultraschallsensoren-uss/225462/2572?u=myp-rotweiss

https://tff-forum.de/t/tesla-vision-vs-ultraschallsensoren-uss/225462/2572?u=myp-rotweiss

All over Germany cars are being delivered without USS already. So far people are underwhelmed / in shock… Many are new to Tesla and find the dimensions of the cars to be sufficiently different from what they had before to successfully manage the car without the sensors without getting in and out...

It is great to know that code is there. What is infuriating is that people who have not seen the code "in action" are saying that there is a fix for the removal of USS. We do not know that yet, however. And to your point, even if the code results in a good "fix", we have ZERO idea when it will...

Great. Nice for him. Until we see a demo from a car that does not have USS, this info is not credible. People are posting and reposting this tweet everywhere. There’s even a guy on the German forum who has made a video after he updated. He references the tweet by Green while showing his own...

Everyone should wait until this is really confirmed. So far there is this single tweet that is simply being referenced again and again. Who is this Green person anyway? Why should anyone believe that there is a solution for USS if Tesla is not making a public statement about it? Tesla informed...

Someone needs to post a video of what the solution looks like in a car without USS before I believe this Green post. So far, I see nothing else out in the ether other than references to this single post… Considering EM just bought Twitter, one had to wonder if this isn’t one of the engineers...

https://tff-forum.de/t/model-y-performance-bestellung-und-vorgesehene-auslieferung-2-hj-2022-teil-3/215128/4107?u=myp-rotweiss Take a look at the pictures there. Use Google Translate to get the gist of things.

The pic you post of a side camera (where the red paint is visible in the pic) certainly looks like a new camera. I will be curious to see the image quality on the display. Thanks for the extra effort in advance!

Take a clear close up photo then and post it.

The forest was a planted one anyway intended for paper. Why they keep pissing and moaning about this is interesting. Gets on my nerves.

I am curious - is anyone else surprised that the mainstream news media have not picked up on the USS removal and its impact on Q4 deliveries? If even a fraction of the cancellations or "on hold" claims I see in the various forums are true, I would think there would be a noticeable impact on...

Curious. Here it is, "Wenn Sie die Software-Updates des Fahrzeugs nicht installieren, nachdem Sie darüber informiert wurden, dass ein Update verfügbar ist, kann dies zum Erlöschen der Tesla Beschränkte Garantie bei Neuwagen bzw. der Tesla Gebrauchtwagengarantie führen.“ Translation: "Failing to...

I’m not sure what your purchase agreements say in the US, but here there is a clause that stipulated that if an owner refuses to take update after being made aware of update availability, then owner foregoes right to warranty.

But when new cameras are necessary for FSD? Should we assume that USS function will only be fully restored with the new cameras - perhaps at our own cost since most of us did not buy FSD? Tesla offering Autopilot Camera Upgrades to owners with FSD capability

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-autopilot-camera-updgrades-full-self-driving/ Here is yet another proof point that the TV solution will rely on new cameras. New cameras that currently are not installed on new 2023 cars being delivered at least in Germany without USS. If you have not taken...

I am quite active in the German speaking forums. I have personally been told by two independent agents at the Tesla sales center that they expect USS to be shut off when the TV solution comes. There are many reports from others around Switzerland, Austria and Germany that say the same. We also...

What you describe has happened to many buyers in Germany and Switzerland (where zu spend most of my forum reading time). Sorry man. It sucks. They have your money now and may not really feel pressured to find you a quick match until quarter end when they need to count deliveries.

Why do you think resale will be worse for late 2022 model with USS than for early 2023 model that doesn’t have USS not Upgraded camera?

In the first reported deliveries of MYPs in Germany, no. Still old cameras.

Thank you all for such laughter!! I have been reading the forums here in the German speaking world (Switzerland/Germany/Austria) to help me decide if I should take delivery in a few weeks of my non-USS model Y performance or not. I thought I’d come here to see what other parts of the planet...