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" I do not commute and I like the choice of several lanes vs. stuck behind some slow poke in the HOV lane." It's uncommon that the HOV lane is slower. With GV/VÉ you always have the choice of getting out of it…on average on the QEW eastbound during rush hour, the HOV lane has saved me 20...

The reports on this that I've seen in the last hour are incomplete, confusing, contradictory, and badly written. Here's hoping the government is cornered, but don't count on it. The lawsuits could go on for some time; it's every con government's ideal to force its opponents to lose by drawing...

As of 10 PM on the 27th, no traditional media have picked this up AFAIK. While I won't doubt the basics, I caution against interpreting a ruling almost no one has read and no one in a qualified legal position has commented on.

I offer a few more corrections, from my experience, which includes driving a Tesla for four years and metering the electricity at home for two: 1. The electricity price at home off peak is probably not 10% of the gasoline price. For the Model S it seems in the 20% range if gasoline is at about...

Where I am in S. Ont., the off-peak rate is presently about 9.435 cents, all in. That includes all the per kWh charges plus taxes. It does not include fixed charges that occur regardless of how much energy you draw. I'm led to believe that across S. Ont. the rates are similar --- but you have to...

This project has had to be abandoned, at least temporarily.

I've updated my data and now calculate that the currently available Model 3 recovers the 30% increase in price after approx. 20,000 km with the current Ontario rebate, and approx. 123,000 km without it. As I said, a work in progress…one difficulty is determining the fuel efficiency of a...

Thanks to all who've commented. I hope to make the spreadsheet available in due course, because users would be able to see the result after inserting their own figures, e.g. for gasoline price and electricity price. It's still a work in progress (with probable future adjustments), based on a QC...

Good point, although he's an ignorant, spiteful jerk, so…while he's at it, why not put in a special EV road tax? How about $2500 annually per car? "No," says his puppet master Harper, don't do that. Make it $5,000." Did I say spiteful jerk?

The rebates will probably be cancelled asap so that Drug Frod can give the money to his pals and his own businesses and boast what a great job he's doing for Ontario. I don't suggest believing the previous words from the Con Party about honouring rebates in progress.

See above comments. This is an exercise to aid people looking for an electric car, aware that they generally cost more than an equivalent ICE car, mostly because of the battery cost per kWh. Trying to find a specific model to compare for nearly any car is difficult, contentious, and not the...

I'm sorry to hear that. In no way do I want to suggest that the only reason to buy an electric car is because it's cheap enough, or pays for the difference after a certain number of km or miles. There are many things that go into the decision of what to buy. Recovery of extra cost is only one...

Good. That makes the Model 3 an even better deal. But partly because there will be differences of opinion on what's comparable, the spreadsheet uses that 30% difference. It gets that assumption from the Innovative Vehicle Institute in Québec, for vehicles with a battery size of more than 50 kWh...

Nothing specific. This is hypothetical to an extent, meaning that you assume whatever car it is, the Model 3 costs 30% more, for the sake of the exercise.

I'll wait 24 hours before presenting the distance I've come up with.

I've worked out a way to determine approximately how far (in km) you have to drive a Model 3 to recover its extra initial cost over a comparable gasoline vehicle, assuming the M3 costs 30% more. The spreadsheet makes a few simple assumptions about fuel efficiency and repair costs. Numbers used...

"$12 for 340 kms of range equates to about $12 for 50 kwh of energy." In the S, 340 km of range would be about 70kWh. As for the M3 not being a long-range car: ??? The bigger battery has a 499 km EPA range; 400 km are not a realistic range (or 200 for half) unless in considerable cold. For...

I'm not aware of any plan or action yet in the Niagara region.

I was told 16, although there's room for more. As of yesterday, 16 charging units were in place. Supercharge.info has a wrong number, and its number of construction days is also off. They seem to have started counting from yesterday, when I wrote them about this.

Alan's X seatbelt buttons are black. Is there a list of differences somewhere?

Wednesday's come and gone. Many more days may come and go. No news that I've seen.

Thanks for all the reports. Given who runs construction in Hamilton, I wouldn't expect this to open soon. Tesla indicates open by "the end of 2018," which may not be accurate, although who knows…

I'd rather go on a Safari.

An excellent announcement, but I'd say 3 or 4 years, certainly not 1; and that's if things continue to go well for Tesla. The oil and gas industry can still try to make sure they don't.

AFAIK, the Deep River charger that has been asked about is not working and never has worked. Info from someone who lives there. As for FLO, I'm not impressed with its competence in one area. It's getting to 6 months since I notified it of erroneous metering on a charger, and the response, when...

What'd he do when it came time to sell the Monterey?

Check Nokia WR G3 tires. They do well in winter and stay on all year, saving a lot of money and hassle.

(Off topic) The metric system has serious deficiencies. Imperial and USC aren't systematic. Anyone who thinks Canada is metric should go to a grocery store in Ontario (at least). Meanwhile, try Primel Metrology. But yes (on topic), knowing when to multiply or divide by 1.60934 shouldn't be...

"Take the amount of the bill and divide by the kWh delivered by the utility. Should be fairly straightforward." That isn't meaningless but it's not straightforward. It's going to give a different per kWh cost from one billing period to another, depending on usage, if there are fixed costs...

The rates in Ontario just went down, i.e. the per kWh cost. The several subsidiary charges did not. Where I live, the per kWh cost off-peak-time is publicized as 6.5 cents. That real cost is 9.435 cents. A year ago, 13.609 cents, on a publicized rate of 8.7 cents. (Electricity rates are a...

Not sure what anyone here is doing to get kWh used; if you're getting that from the car, it's too low by a serious amount. You need a meter to read how much electricity (energy) is going into the car. Whatever the base price per kWh, additional per-kWh charges and similar add-ons should be...

Plug'ndrive has a considerable report on this question: http://plugndrive.ca/sites/default/files/Enabling%20EV%20Charging%20in%20Condominiums.pdf

No noticeable difference in range after installing the WR G3s. And others are also correct: all-weather is not all-season. Totally different concept. Sure, they're a compromise, but a good one. Probably not as good in the worst winter conditions as Hakkapeliitta R2s, but we've not had a problem...

You haven't lived till you've experienced 6-day weeks. (I recommend not asking…)

My comment was independent of rate or time. Yes, at the top of the SoC it takes longer to increase the charge by 1 kWh, but how many km of charge that produces in this one car doesn't seem to change much at any part of the SoC continuum. There are differences outside the range of equivalences I...

According to meters I use, 1 kWh gives between 5.35 and 5.40 km, regardless of SoC..

Oakville-Toronto area, really much of S. Ontario: JML Electric installed our HPWC in 2014. I don't remember the price. They were the cheapest of 5 estimates by a little and, importantly, may have done more Tesla installations than anyone in the area. Excellent results, despite their having to...

Some of the KSI stations listed as "in service" or "coming soon" had not even started construction as of two weeks ago. On the other hand, the gov't has removed some of the stations that I ascertained would not be built, when I travelled around S. Ontario. If it had updated its map when it...

The Nokian WR G3 tires on our car are excellent for both summer and winter (they're all-weather, not all-season tires) --- no need to have eight tires and eight rims. At 82,000 km, they're still going fine.

Then the Queensway Ikea L3s aren't still blocked off by cones, I assume. I don't know if there's a number to phone for help, or at least to report non-functioning chargers. You'd probably have seen that if there is one. This story illustrates my two big concerns about chargers: they may not...

The centre screen, so I'm informed, costs about CA$5000 now. Not saying it's a liability. We paid $4100 for the second 80,000 km warranty, before the price went up. If you're lucky, you won't need the warranty, but no one knows how these cars will do after a large number of kms or 7 or 8 years.

To answer the original question, we have an S85 that we pay about 75% of the electricity for, the rest being free. In its first two years, we spent about CA$50 a month in energy, to go about 31,000 km each year. That's about 1.95 cents/km. Calculating electricity cost is a difficult game in...

A big thank you to Tesla for that welcoming party last night in Oakville. Great facility, great people, great event: a very special evening.

That appears to be a 43% increase. What was the dollar at when you ordered your car? Or when you picked it up? Is the 60 now the same car? (Possibly not.)

It does connect more quickly, I believe. It'd be helpful to have the simple things, like km/mi added (or kWh added) and the ability to change the start time, and maybe stop time. All except that last has been available in the car on the touch screen.

The updated phone app has locked me out. No e-mail-password combination works. Reset the password on the computer. Reloaded the phone app. Restarted the phone. Nothing. I can get into MyTesla on the computer, no prob. Suggestions? EDIT: after a couple of phone calls with Tesla, the problem was...

While we're talking about costs…to heat the battery for half an hour costs me between 50 and 60 cents at the peak rate. To charge at, say, 72 amps for half an hour at the peak rate costs about $1.88. Which is better? To bring the charge cost down to 50–60 cents, I could charge at 20 amps...

Yes, there may be some recognition that BEVs are a better choice. I haven't found evidence, though, of the free EV electricity or the dropping of PST or HST on purchases. With the upped incentive (in some cases) and the recently dropped PST on electricity for residences, it's safe to say that...

The new Ontario incentives are announced. Teslas are up to $14,000 (where they should have been before), up to a purchase price of $150,000. So the cap of $3000 between $75K and $150K purchase price is removed.

Couple of additional points. The store/retailer/service centre sometimes needs to charge a lot of cars. What about L3 chargers, although they were uncommon until recently --- and many would be needed. Or are high-amp L2s sufficient? Again, many. The second question is: how should the Lawrence...